Re: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch -- MIDRANGE-L

Aaron,

Wouldn't using the iSeries Command Log in WDSC accomplish the same thing?

Kind regards,

Brian


On 12/15/06, albartell <albartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Just so everybody knows where I stand, I have been using WDSC since the
4.0
days.  I ONLY use SEU if a clients machine just won't work with WDSC.

Note that I stated I compiled my programs by doing an F9 and ENTER meaning
I
typed it in on the command line and was not using PDM.

After using WDSC for many years I have gained perspective that doesn't
have
candy coating on it (or at least not nearly as much).  I can leverage and
justify it in my daily programming.  I know certain features that aren't
up
to par for quick app development, and that often times heads me back to
the
command line.

I would like to know where Trevor was going with his statements because it
seems he is still in the candy coated phase of thinking WDSC should ONLY
be
used in ALL cases.

Aaron Bartell

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:22 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

  FWIW, Aaron, I saw Joe Pluta do a seminar on WDSC 10 days ago, and I am
  now convinced that WDSC is a better tool than PDM and SEU.

  I'm waiting for my Christmas bonus to go buy a PC with more horsepower
to
  run WDSC.
  --

  Paul Nelson
  Arbor Solutions, Inc.
  708-670-6978  Cell
  pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
  -----midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: -----

    To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
    From: "albartell" <albartell@xxxxxxxxx>
    Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
    Date: 12/15/2006 01:49PM
    Subject: RE: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

    >If you are still coding in "edit, compile, run, fail, debug, edit,
    compile,
    run, fail, debug, edit, compile" mode, then it would seem you are
using
    WDSc
    as you did with PDM - this is not a true Integrated Development
    Environment.

    Please humor me so I can update my coding style.  How do you develop
RPG
    programs using WDSC, Trevor?  If there are better ways to do what I am
    doing
    then I will happily change! Note that "better" in that previous
sentence
    means time savings because in the end that is what I look for out of
    WDSC.
    There is enough time savings with the good things that it outweighs
the
    bad
    things.

    Aaron Bartell
    http://mowyourlawn.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
    [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
    Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:33 PM
    To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
    Subject: Re: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

    Aaron,

    If you are still coding in "edit, compile, run, fail, debug, edit,
    compile,
    run, fail, debug, edit, compile" mode, then it would seem you are
using
    WDSc
    as you did with PDM - this is not a true Integrated Development
    Environment.

    In that case, you ~would~ expect CTRL+S to save your member to the
    System i
    - not to the PC where you are doing the actual development work.

    Given that, I would have missed the point. WDSc is just a fancier
    version of
    PDM...

    Of course, some of us stick to the "compile, now it works" approach...
    :-)

    Trevor

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