Re: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

["Trevor Perry" <tperry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Nathan,

Thanks for the support. I appreciate the feedback.

Maybe I need to build a website: www.as400syndromeandproudofit.com ? I agree 
with you that the key to the future is leveraging the past. However, we need 
to have a clear vision of what was valuable from the past and use it as a 
stepping stone to the future.

For example, you compare SAVE in SEU with CTRL+S in WDSc. However, these 
things are two completely separate tasks. SAVE in SEU will save you current 
member for you to your development system. In WDSc, this function is done 
for you. Your PC is the development system, and it keeps all of the changes 
you make as you develop in the Integrated Development Environment. CTRL+S in 
WDSc is publishing your changes from the development server to the 
deployment or production server.  Not apples to apples. You are complaining 
about the present based on something different from the past.

And, you did not define what you meant by 'better' when you said "native 
record level access is better than SQL for retrieving records by key, 
updating them, and writing them". While the AS/400 faithful may think it is 
'better' in some green outdated sense, the System i futurists do not agree.

Trevor


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathan Andelin" <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch


> >Trevor Perry:
> > I wrote about AS/400 Syndrome ...
>
> "Maybe, this ability to see no further than your own technology
> is a disease? Letʼs call it AS/400 syndrome, and work on a cure!"
>
> "Are you stuck in the past? Do you have AS400 Syndrome?"
>
> In the past, I entered "save" in the command line of SEU and my program 
> was saved to disk in the blink of an eye.
>
> In the present, I press CTR+S in Websphere Developer Studio Client and am 
> somewhat entertained by  three (3) iterations of the progress bar (growing 
> and shrinking, growing and shrinking, growing and shrinking) while I wait 
> for the file to be saved.
>
> You have a great site, Trevor.  And I appreciate the recognition the 
> System i platform is gaining from it.  But in some ways, the past is 
> better than the present.
>
> The AS/400 faithful are a discriminating group.  They've learned for 
> example that native record level access is better than SQL for retrieving 
> records by key, updating them, and writing them.
>
> The key is leveraging the the past to ensure the future, not discarding 
> the past for things that grab immediate attention, but have less intrinsic 
> value.
>
> Nathan.