RE: Anybody besides me notice? -- MIDRANGE-L

Been thru 6-8 of them. Unbelievable for IBM.  Thank goodness for
RAID-5.

justin.haase@xxxxxxxxxxxx 12/12/2006 1:07:21 PM >>>

10k 8.58GB drives back in 2001-ish timeframe - HORRIBLE!


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Justin C. Haase - Solution Engineer
IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
Kingland Systems Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Dow (ML)
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 2:51 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Anybody besides me notice?

No, Joe, that's what Walden mentioned that you never answered.  What I
asked was, is there any quantitative evidence that OS/400 is getting
less stable one way or the other.  And if so, what would that evidence
be?  Number of PTFs issued after a new release?  Number of PMRs opened
by Rob after a new release?  Number of emails on this list complaining
about problems after a new release?

And as you say, there is a similar question for hardware.  It would be
nice if we had actual numbers rather than stories on this list about
who
had to replace what, although that does give a feel for it.  Wasn't
there a large batch of 10K or maybe 17K drives that had problems?

*Peter Dow* /
Dow Software Services, Inc.
909 793-9050
pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> /

Joe Pluta wrote:

Peter, are you suggesting that OS/400 (i5/OS) is less stable?  I 
personally have never opened a PMR, while Rob has raised dozens.  I 
don't know about his take on it, but my take is that the system is 
just as stable as it always has been, which is far more stable than 
even the latest release of Windows.

WebSphere is an inherently less stable beast, but that's the nature

of

web application servers in general.  I will say that I find Tomcat 
more stable than WebSphere 6, but I don't think that's any sort of

knock of the iSeries.


RPG, on the other hand, seems more stable, faster, more powerful.

SQL

keeps getting better.  CL continues to just plain work.

When's the last time you saw a bug in the operating system?  This 
isn't preaching, it's just asking a simple question.

Hardware, on the other hand, IS less stable in my opinion.  It's 
nowhere near the failure rate of commodity machines, but it's also 
worse than I remember it in years past.

But no matter what, the salient point is that "worse" means that I've

had to have IBM come in and replace a drive for me twice in the last

five years.

How many disk drives need to be replaced on a commodity box?  Hell, I

have to pretty much replace my laptop every three years.

Joe

From: Peter Dow (ML)

Nice rant, but you didn't address the part of Walden's post that you

quoted that I found interesting -- has our favorite gotten less

stable?

Is there any quantitative assessment that could prove it one way or

another, say # ptfs per release?  Or if we're talking hardware, # 
service requests per new model?  Or should I expect more preaching

to

the choir, with anecdotes instead of hard facts?


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