RE: RPG Decompilers (moved from CPF000)

   My client preferred to call it "Negotiating from a position of strength".
    
   You know how construction guys are. Especially the Italian ones..........
   :-))
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   Paul Nelson
   Arbor Solutions, Inc.
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     From: "Shannon O'Donnell" <shannon.odonnell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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     Date: 12/08/2006 03:36PM
     Subject: RE: RPG Decompilers (moved from CPF000)

     Isn't that blackmail?

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     Subject: RE: RPG Decompilers (moved from CPF000)

       I used SourceRetrieval for a client once. The client's software
     vendor
       wanted to GOUGE them to move to a different machine to get more DASD
     and
       horsepower, even though the actual number of users had decreased. The
       client didn't want to abandon the platform, and was willing to
     continue
       paying maintenance. The vendor felt he could play hardball, however,
     to
       the tune of almost $100,000.
        
       When I was asked for alternatives, I mentioned SourceRetrieval as a
     place
       that could provide the method to recreate the license checking
     program on
       the new machine. They told me to make it happen, and ordered the
     newer,
       bigger machine. The decompilation cost less than $1,000.
        
       The vendor was willing to renegotiate with my client when the client
       started faxing a copy of the source listing (one page per day for a
     week)
       to them. When the vendor issued the key for the new serial number, my
       client's attorney delivered the tape containing the source code to
     the
       vendor.

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         From: "Shannon O'Donnell" <shannon.odonnell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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         Date: 12/08/2006 03:16PM
         Subject: RE: RPG Decompilers (moved from CPF000)

         I don't know that I think they are necessarily a terrible idea...

         The truth is I just happened to notice an add for them on iSeries
         Network when I clicked on a link in an earlier post today about a
         utility from Carsten.  So I followed the link to the decompiler
     vendor
         website and was reading about it, and that got me to wondering what
         other people might think about them.  I haven't seen a discussion
     on
         decompilers for a long time.

         Heck, I think if you can figure out how to do it, then you've
     really
         done something. That seems like a bit of black magic to me since I
     doubt
         that I'd be able to achieve a decompiler, even if I tried.

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         [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Klement
         Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:50 PM
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         Subject: Re: RPG Decompilers (moved from CPF000)

         On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Shannon O'Donnell wrote:
         >
         > What do you think of these?
         > http://juggersoft.com/decompilers.htm
         >

         This is the same company that used to be called "SST Global" (in
     fact,
         if
         you watch their animated logo in the upper-left corner of the home
     page,

         it still says "SST Global" at the end of the animation sequence!)

         These decompilers have been around for a long time already.  I
     believe
         (but don't quote me on this) that SST Global ended up buying out
     the old

         SourceRetrieval.com as well.  So these have been around for ages.

         Why, all of a sudden, after all these years, do you think they're a
     bad
         idea?
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