RE: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch -- MIDRANGE-L

Can I get an AMEN???!!!

It's a System i.  It's not an AS/400 anymore.  That name just LOOKS
dated.  It's not even an iSeries.  Get with it.


--
Justin C. Haase - Solution Engineer
IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
Kingland Systems Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:18 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

Mark,

There is no name game refrain here. There is only ONE family name for
this platform - System i. No one knows about System i - yet it is the
best platform on the planet. Why don't they know? Because we keep
calling it an AS/400 - something from last century.

If WE, collectively, would start calling it System i, there would be
less of the "it's old" refrain. Why this is not obvious, I cannot
imagine. It is like calling my DVD collection VHS - that was the
precursor, not the current technology. That was the heritage, not the
present. Who would you buy a movie player from in today's world? Not the
VHS salesman. Not the luddite who says VHS is the best thing - even
though they are using a DVD - or even a DVR for that matter.

We have to STOP saying AS/400 before we lose the System i.

Trevor


----- Original Message -----
From: "M. Lazarus" <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

Trevor,

 We've heard the "name game" refrain for a while, but IMHO, that's
missing the mark by a long shot.  That's like saying that the entire
Ferrari line won't sell if I paint some pink.  As "modern" as this
platform is, there are some gaping holes that only IBM can fix, but
they choose not to.  I'll throw out a few, others can chime in with
additional items and details.

1) IBM seems to be embarrassed by the box.  Put a pSeries up against
an iSeries in a potential sale and chances are the pSeries will win,
if there's an IBM sales rep involved.  They don't market it
properly.  All of us in the field recognize that.  Since I don't
believe that the parade of IBM'ers over the years in charge of
marketing the box are stupid, the only conclusion I can come to is
that it's deliberately being sabotaged.  I don't know why, but I'm
not privy to those meetings.

2) A native GUI is mandatory.  I don't want to hear about HATS,
Websphere or other screen scraper technology.  A simple DDS interface
will make it accessible to the masses.  This needs to be part of the
OS, right out of the box, w/ no additional configuration required.

3) Printing and viewing popular PC images are a royal pain, without
conversions or add-ons.  Could you imagine if Microsoft charged extra
to print standard graphics files?

4) Pricing.  Take a page out of Microsoft's marketing
machine.  Purchasing this machine should be a slam dunk for any IT
manager.  IBM loves to throw out the 3-5 year ROI calculation when
trying to make a sale.  I say - keep that value and introduce a new
concept:  Being competitive with a PC server solution -
NOW!  Corporate wants to hear that we can budget and afford this
solution - NOW!  Shareholders want to hear that we saved money THIS
year, not in 3 - 5 years.
-----------

 The many name changes are just adding insult to injury.  But since
they're not marketing it properly, positive brand recognition is not
there anyway.



 -mark


At 12/7/06 11:59 PM, you wrote:

Way too long to read for the lack of any solution. It starts with a

call

to
fight, carries on with a call to fight for an OUTDATED server (AS/400)

and

ends with suggestions for IBM to do something. That does not fly any 
more -
we have to get off OUR collective behinds and DO something. IBM needs

OUR

help to keep this platform in OUR world.

You can't fight a fight for a system that is no longer available for
purchase - that is, an AS/400. While we keep on calling our platform

an

AS/400, and still call ourselves AS/400 developers/programmers/people,

we

will remain stuck in the past and die the betamax death. We can write

all

we
want about what IBM should do, but writing does nothing if you are

still

writing about AS/400. And this article switches between AS/400 and

System

i
like they are the same thing. If I.T. collectively thinks AS/400 is
outdated, then painting System i with the outdated "AS/400" brush is

the

first thing to STOP DOING.

We work on System i - this is the family of servers which WERE AS/400
servers, THEN iSeries servers, but are now System i5. You do not buy a

new

AS/400 from IBM - you buy a System i5 server. This is THE most modern
platform on the planet, and if we just moved into the 21st century, we

would
not have to be "fighting the AS/400 fight".

Fight the System i fight.
AS/400 is our past, not our present.
AS/400 is our heritage, not our future.
AS/400 is dead. Long live the System i.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Palmer" <neilpalmer400mr@xxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:27 PM
Subject: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

Well worth a read:

Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh120406-story03.html

Neil Palmer, Cambridge, Ontario, Canada


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