RE: System i5 first boot

In the current day people are salaried and it doesn't matter how many
hours you work.  God bless ya if you're hourly!  Keep it up!  I for one
am soooo glad HMC came out.  I await the day I can get rid of the rest
of the twinax systems around here.  Then monthly maintenance weekends
and OS upgrades can be done completely from home. 


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Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer
IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
Kingland Systems Corporation

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:13 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: System i5 first boot

John, I don't think anybody is saying the HMC is a bad decision.  Just
that it's not a slam-dunk either.  For $1300, you get remote access to
your machine.  Interestingly enough, this is something we never had
before and yet we got by.  I'm just interested to know how often this
particular feature gets used.

For me, the answer would be "never".  As Rob points out, I have a SOHO
configuration, but even so I'm on the road a lot and the issue of access
never comes up.  I've also got a lot of clients, and to my knowledge
none of them are using HMC (with the possible exception of Rob).  On the
other end of the spectrum, at SSA we always had at least one operator
24x7 so that wasn't an issue.

Here's an interesting twist: does the presence of an HMC now mean that
you get to do backups from home when you would have had to drive in to
work?
Back in the day, if I had to drive in to work to do something like an
overnight mass compile, I got paid for it.  With an HMC, it seems like
you can tell people to do things at 3AM without having to pay them for
it.

Not sure this is a good thing...

Joe

From: Jones, John (US)

Windows PC: $500ish (could be less, could be a lot more).  Twinax

card:

Haven't used them in at least a decade; the closest thing I see online

after a brief search is a PCCard for notebooks at $370.  pcAnywhere 
license for host & remote: $100.  Anti-Virus software at $30.  So 
you're at $1000 street price or thereabouts.  That's marginally 
cheaper than the $1300 mentioned below for an HMC.  KVM and LAN 
connections are the same for either setup so I omitted those costs.  
Cheaper if you use used/low-end stuff but do you really want to 
cheap-out when it comes to controlling your main production server?  
Is the 4-year old used PC going to be reliable over the useful life of

the i5?

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