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Agreed.  See my prior note.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
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A new i5 520 can't run V5R3 (The Power 5+ Models).

This makes the procedure a lot more complicated.
You can go through the V5R3M5 LIC (this one runs on the the Power 5+
machines).
I don't know if the 170 can run V5R3M5, but it can't run V5R4 for sure.

And for V5R3M5, you will need a 17GB load source, which the 170 probably
doesn't have.

If your customer has a clear documentation of their setup, a restore of
just the library and then reapplying the settings might be a lot easier.

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I agree.  And I agree with the multiple steps.  Maybe I worded something

wrong.  I guess I was concerned how you were going to get from V5R2 on
the
170 to V5R4 on the 520.

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Because the contents of QUSRSYS will be screwed up.  Also, the CISC to
RISC
Upgrade process preserves system values, network attributes, edit
descriptions, service providers, and a few other things that I can no
longer remember.

Al

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If you're going to skip some release upgrades, why do some of them
anyway?
 Versus treating it like your fathers AS/400 and just restore a few user
libraries and be done with it?

You're going CISC-to-RISC to a 170 at V4R5.  Then you plan on upgrading
the 170 to V5R2.  Actually, the 170 supports V5R3 so I'd get to that
also.
 Then go to the 520 and V5R4.  I don't think V5R2 ran on a 520.

I think the only thing I was missing was V5R3.

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The customer in the S36E (and very happy with it) has initiated the
upgrade
because they had no connectivity to their Windoze server.

We think we have all the PTFs.  We will migrate them to a decommissioned
170 at V4R5, and then upgrade that to V5R2.

Then we will upgrade that onto a 520 at V5R4.

Not a lot of knowledge running around about this process any more.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
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e gads

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You are KIDDING Al - of course you aren't :-) Wow - CISC to RISC, that
was
a
LONG time ago and another employer when I did that but man was it slick
(take that MS, et al) :-)

Chuck

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Technically no, but if you've had any major disruption (like an abnormal
termination) RCLSTG is generally good for what ails you.

I'm currently doing a CISC to RISC, and a RCLSTG is mandatory there.

Al

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