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Historically, all mainframe applications (and the AS/400 was modeled after the System/38, which was modeled after a 360/370/390/System z [you see they are name crazed also!]) used local time. When Windoze '95 came out with automatic daylight savings time, this became the trendy thing to do. IBM has put a lot of effort into making sure that this was added in V5R3 that it didn't break your applications. I have a presentation that I do at COMMON and an article that appeared in COMMON Connect a few years ago. If anyone wants a copy, please send me PRIVATE e-mail, and I will send it today. Al Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z" e gads Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor! 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com http://www.as400connection.com "Jones, John \(US\)" <John.Jones@xxxxx To l.com> "Midrange Systems Technical Sent by: Discussion" midrange-l-bounce <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> s@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject 10/27/2006 12:18 RE: Changing the system clock this PM weekend... Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> Shouldn't "time sensitive applications" be aware of DST themselves? Why is an app issue left to the OS to handle? John A. Jones, CISSP Americas Information Security Officer Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782 john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graap, Kenneth Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:08 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: RE: Changing the system clock this weekend... Rob wrote: I simply think that many of these people are just not getting the fact that there HAS been updates to the OS to handle the time change. Rob ... I agree that IBM has improved how the OS handles time changes over the years... They use to do nothing, now they allow the system to adjust the system clock automatically twice a year. However, there is still a big problem with how it is handled when the time change moves backward in time. IBM has not given us a process that addresses issues involving "time sensitive applications" like MQSeries and some system journaling processes. Once they combine "Time Adjustment" and automatic time zone change, then we will have a truly integrated and automated process for adjusting time on the iSeries... Kenneth Kenneth -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 5:19 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: RE: Changing the system clock this weekend... No Jeff, while there may (or may not) be issues with MQ series, etc, I simply think that many of these people are just not getting the fact that there HAS been updates to the OS to handle the time change. I sure hope they aren't expecting IBM to ptf it back to V2R3. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Jeff Crosby" <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 10/27/2006 07:00 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: Changing the system clock this weekend... I don't understand. I didn't do squat last spring end the i5 just handled it because of the time zone I set in V5R4. Other than MQ, are a number of you on older releases causing an issue? -- Jeff Crosby Dilgard Frozen Foods, Inc. P.O. Box 13369 Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369 260-422-7531 The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily the opinion of my company. Unless I say so.
-----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chuck Lewis Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:57 PM To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' Subject: RE: Changing the system clock this weekend... I'm with you Jim (chgsysval qhour) AND when is IBM going to FIX this ? We have a Linux email server and it adjusts. All our PC's adjust. My cell phone adjusts. WHY can't the iSeries ? Chuck -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Franz Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:44 PM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: Changing the system clock this weekend... The Time Adjustment seems a good solution for my sites. Don't have any need to synch with other systems, and it's not an option to bring the machine down (it's taking and processing orders). However - I'm not planning to sign on at 1:59am to point & click a navigator function. Why can't Rochester figure it out their job scheduler works great to run stuff overnight. We need a #%*# command to call. So I will do what I've done every year - chgsysval qhour. jim franz -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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