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Is Canada going along with the US.  I can't imagine that they would
deviate, however everything I have heard says that these changes for the US
only?

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I have a question.  Why new timezones and make a switch?  Why not just
change the dates on the old timezones?  Or, are there people who will be
using the old timezones and people using the new timezones?  If so, how
will they differentiate - by the application of the ptf?  If that is it, I
take it this ptf will never make it to a cume?

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The current PTFs are for testing purposes only.

In November, after the current DST ends, there will most likely be another

set of PTFs which will define the new rules AND automatically switch the
QTIMZON system value to these new *TIMZON objects IF you have not modified

the current IBM supplied *TIMZONs appropriate for the United States.  You
do not (today) want to change your current QTIMZON system value to these
new *TIMZON objects as that would mean you want the 2007 rules to be
applied in 2006 (unless you want to do testing).

Note that these PTFs do not provide anything you couldn't have done
yourself using the appropriate time zone related commands to create new
time zone definitions.

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Also - the PTF does not automatically change your time zone.


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Kingland Systems Corporation

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Downloading and applying... Stay tuned.  I have a feeling that this fix
makes it necessary to DL and apply, then switch to a new zone.  If the
gov't decides to switch it back, you'll just pop back to the old time
zone setting.

The fix is 58k, so an ECS download is fine... I guess I'll have your
answer right now.

Currently system is on QN0600CST.
START = April/Sunday/1st/2:00:00AM
END = October/Sunday/Last/2:00:00AM
Downloaded, applied.
No changes to the QN0600CST.
Added the QN0600CST2.
QN0600CST2 settings are as follows:
START = March/Sunday/2nd/2:00:00AM
END = November/Sunday/1st/2:00:00AM

So - you have to DL and apply, and then ***AFTER THE FIRST SUNDAY IN
NOVEMBER*** switch to one of the new zones.


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The title for PTF SI24717 is "Additional time zones for United States"
http://www-912.ibm.com/a_dir/as4ptf.nsf/9939a36675eadb978625710200584cbd
/11ff964a7d83baac862571c500528178?OpenDocument

For example, I am on QN0500EST.  I don't see any changes to that.  I do
see a set of new ones:
   QN0500EST3 Eastern Standard Time / Eastern Daylight Time
   QN0600CST2 Central Standard Time / Central Daylight Time
   QN0700MST3 Mountain Standard Time / Mountain Daylight Time
   QN0800PST2 Pacific Standard Time / Pacific Daylight Time
   QN0900AST2 Alaska Standard Time / Alaska Daylight Time
   QN1000HAS2 Hawaii-Aleutian Standard Time / Hawaii-Aleutian Daylight
Time

Will this handle any date changes on the existing time zones?

Rob Berendt
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Go here:  http://tinyurl.com/fmfwj

It's an APAR from IBM about the DST changes for 2007 for the US.

V5R3 PTF = SI24716
V5R4 PTF = SI24717

And before the deluge comes, daylight saving time ends in 2006 at 1:59am
on October 29th.  Go to the following links for info on the why and
when, as well as calculators for US and EU.

http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/
http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html

Search the archives of midrange.com on recommended ways to "fall back"
and how the newer hardware and OS versions do it for you.

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