RE: Recover data from As/400 Drives -- MIDRANGE-L

Or IBM could save us a bunch of time and frankenPCseriesing and create a
DST option for us!  They obviously know how to write all the sectors
across the disk ONCE, just do it a few more times. 


--
Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer
IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
Kingland Systems Corporation

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Subject: RE: Recover data from As/400 Drives

   Good Thinking!  Once zapped back to the stone age on the PC they can
be
   re-initialized on the System i with the recovery option to
'Initialize and
   Format'. 
    
     - Larry
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     From: "DeLong, Eric" <EDeLong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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     Date: 08/16/2006 12:34PM
     Subject: RE: Recover data from As/400 Drives

     As I recall, the iSeries DASD can be connected to a PC SCSI
adapter.  Is
     there a disk wipe tool for the PC that could be used to scratch
these
     drives?  I'm not sure if they could be used again by iSeries
servers,
     though....

     Eric DeLong
     Sally Beauty Company
     MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
     940-297-2863 or ext. 1863

     -----Original Message-----
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     [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Haase, Justin
C.
     Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:34 AM
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     Subject: RE: Recover data from As/400 Drives

     I think someone with proper devices could recover data.  The
chances of
     it being meaningful would be very slim unless it was a single-drive
     system, though.  With striping and being spread across multiple
disks in
     a RAID set, it would make whatever data retrieved pretty "random,"
if
     you will.

     I also seem to recall some function suggested to IBM about adding
an
     official "clear disks" feature to DST, never heard anything more
about
     it.  I thought the government required writing 1s, then 0s
something
     like 7 times to call a physical disk "clean."  Not sure on that
number
     though - may be getting it confused with number of shuffles of a
new
     deck of cards.

     Get a disk degausser.  That'll smoke 'em.  =)  And yes, taking
backup
     tapes home is infinitely more risky than reselling these drives.
The
     chances are very very very remote, IMHO, but auditors can (and
will)
     always find something.  If it's only a few, it's not worth it.

     --
     Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer
     IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
     Kingland Systems Corporation

     -----Original Message-----
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     lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx
     Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:27 AM
     To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
     Subject: Recover data from As/400 Drives

       If I have done BOTH of:
        a) Delete ASP Data
          - AND -
        b) booted to a SLIC CD and done Initialize and Format disks for
all
     disks
       on a system.
        
       is there any possibilty, however remote, that data could be
recovered
     from
       those disks?
        
       In other words if you had disks from your company that had been
     cleared in
       this manner would you be comfortable selling those disks on the
used
       market?  I have a customer who believes that SOX says you cannot
sell
     that
       stuff because data could be recovered. I think they have 100,000
     times
       more exposure by having IT staff take backup tapes home in their
car
     as
       off-site backups!
        
        - Larry
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