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Re: If there were a sufficient money stream in the "ma and pas", IBM would

Hi Steve
Let me save you from guessing (and thereby continually misunderstanding the different value propositions these machines represent) - the other operating systems don't have "that other stuff" like security and work management.
Having DB2 security is all very well but you still have to manage access to the box itself. Typically the effort to manage the database and workload scheduling/scripting on any machine doing anything significant dwarfs any file system administration such as you referred to.
While there are some aspects of your frustration with the Series i pricing and positioning I share - in particular a comparable entry level system i like the system p you referred to - making sweeping, incorrect generalisations and guessing about operating system features when comparing prices doesn't help your case or your credibility.
The simple fact is that the type of machines you keep on comparing price-wise would require [at least] an extra body, so of course they are cheaper to purchase - but not to run. 

Regards
Evan Harris

At 04:19 a.m. 3/08/2006, you wrote:

On 8/2/06, Mark Allen <scprideandms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> what about all the stuff that is "thrown in" the i5/OS that you have to buy
> seperately on other boxes (security comes to mind first)

AIX and Linux have that. ( guessing )   The DB2 on the p5 has user and
group security built into it.   Is administering the IFS on the i5 any
easier than administering the file system of AIX or Windows? I dont
think so.  An i5 that is serving SQL procedure result sets to
distributed clients is not an install and forget system. Not like the
equivalent green screen application.

-Steve

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