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Adam - you definitely put the right slant on things!

Seriously, an interesting point here is that the iSeries recognizes both as valid. So you can use either

wrklnk '/*'

or

wrklnk '\*'

to open to the contents of the root. The IFS is officially Unix-ish - you will see only forward slashes in the header of the wrklnk screen.

;-)
Vern

At 07:31 AM 7/27/2006, you wrote:

Scott,

Thanks for the (as usual) detailed and informative information.  I just
have to nitpick though - this is a pet peeve of mine.  I'm sure you know
this already, but I want to point it out because there are a lot of people
out there who don't know the difference.

This is a slash:            /
This is a backslash:  \

The way I remember is that the backslash is leaning 'backward' in relation
to the direction I read.  There is good reason to be precise about this -
as you pointed out below, Unix-type systems (including Linux, the
stream-based filesystem in i5/OS and I believe MacOS) use a slash as a
directory separator, whereas Windows uses a backslash.

Sorry if this comes across as pedantic.  I just wanted to bring it up
because I'm always surprised how many people get this mixed up.

Thanks again for the explanation ... I was never quite sure what UNC stood
for or meant exactly.
Adam



midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 26/07/2006 04:58:03 PM:

>
> > ===> "e) You use RTVNETA to get the system name to use in a UNC path.
This
> > is incorrect."
> > Then, I do not understand why is working perfectly if I try to use it
for
> > files with no spaces in between, like DIRECTDATA.txt, SAMPLEDATA.XLS
or
> > TEST_DATA.TXT?
>
> I hate trying to explain this -- and this is now the 3rd time I find
> myself doing it on Midrange-L!
>
> Consider this code, which is obviously incorrect code:
>
>      RTVUSRPRF USRPRF(*CURRENT) RTNUSRPRF(&SYSTEM)
>      PING RMTSYS(&SYSTEM)
>
> How can it PING a user profile?  Yet it works perfectly. Does this mean
> that you can legally PING a user profile?  No, of course not.
>
> My user profile is KLEMSCOT.  I happen to have a computer on the network

> who's name is also KLEMSCOT. Therefore, the PING happens to work -- that

> doesn't mean that when it's time to look up a computer name, the
RTVUSRPRF
> command is the right command to use!
>
> The same is true for RTVNETA.  It returns the APPC/SNA name of your
> system.  Can you use that name in Microsoft Networking?  Sure, but it'll

> only be coincidence if it works.  The guy who configured your system
just
> happened to use the same name for the APPC system name as he did for the

> Windows Networking system name.
>
> My name is Scott.  If I call out "Scott, come here" the guy in the next
> office will walk over here.  His name, just by coincidence, happens to
> also be Scott. That does not mean that calling out my own name is the
> right way to summon other people. It's only coincidence that his name
> happens to be the same as mine.
>
> The same is true in your case.  Your APPC system name coincidentally
> happens to be the same as your Windows Networking name. That doesn't
mean
> that your code is correct.  If someone changes your Windows Networking
> name and not your APPC name, the code will fail. If you run it on my
> system (where the names don't match) it'll fail.
>
> You'd be better off hard-coding the name than using RTVNETA.  At least
> then it'd be OBVIOUS to the next programmer that the code will only work

> on the current machine, instead of misleading him into thinking that
it's
> written in a generic way that'll work anywhere.
>
>
> > ===> "f) You assemble your UNC path into the &SYSPATH variable, which
is
> > 1000 chars long.  This won't work..."
> > Again, I am confused then when the other examples presented above can
> > work.
>
> It'll only work if the last 877 bytes of &SYSPATH are blanks.  What's
the
> point of making a variable 1000 long when it's impossible to use
anything
> over 123 chars?
>
>
> > ===> "g) The samples that you included in the e-mail involve a UNC
path
> > that points to TXT file.  You then pass this UNC path to STRPCCMD --
> > which makes no sense..."
> > Just for illustration of the issue, if I go to Windows Explorer and
type
> > in \\TT400\ROOT\TEST\Copy of DETAILDATA.txt it will automatically
launch
> > NOTEPAD.EXE but it will not work from my CLP; However, if I try to
> > access the file\\TT400\ROOT\TEST\DETAILDATA123456abcdef.txt it will
> > automatically launch NOTEPAD.EXE and it will do exactly the same thing

> > if I run it using my CLP.
>
> Windows has several different ways to run commands. There's the
> CreateProcess() API (which is what Microsoft recommends), the
> WinExec() API(from Win 3.1) the ShellExecute() API, and probably some
> others that I'm not aware of, since I'm not really a Windows guy.
>
> When your 5250 emulation software was written, the programmer who wrote
it
> had to use one of these APIs. One 5250 emulator may behave differently
> than the next 5250 emulator!
>
> I tried your program from the open source TN5250 (Current developer's
> sources from CVS, from tn5250.sf.net) and it worked just fine with the
way
> your command is quoted. With or without spaces, it doesn't matter. I
> happened to be the programmer who wrote the STRPCCMD support for that
> emulator, so I know how it works.
>
> I also tried your command from NetManage's Rumba (version 7.3), and it
> worked just fine from there as well.
>
> Then I tried it from Mochasoft, and it didn't work.
>
> If I change your code to specify "notepad" (the actual program name)
> instead of just sending the pathname (as follows) it works just fine in
> all 3 of the above emulators:
>
>    CHGVAR     VAR(&SYSPATH) VALUE('notepad +
>              "\\' *CAT &SYSTEM *TCAT '\KLEMSCOT\' *CAT &OBJ *TCAT +
>              '"')
>
> I don't have iSeries Access (our company doesn't own a license for it)
so
> I can't try that one, but I suggest that you specify the program name
> instead of just the pathname, I think it'll work better.  YMMV.
>
> If I use the "start" command (as I previously suggested) it has problems

> with any filename that has a space in it, but specifying "notepad"
instead
> doesn't seem to have that problem.
>
>
> > a) What is an UNC path?
>
> UNC path is a Windows term.  Normally a pathname in Windows consists of
an
> (optional) drive letter, followed by (optionally) folders, and then the
> filename.  For example:
>
>       C:\Documents\Programming\RPG Manual.pdf
>
> The problem with this syntax was that in order to connect to different
> devices, such as network drives, you had to map a drive letter to them.
> On a big network you very quickly run out of available drive letters.
>
> Later, Microsoft introduced UNC (Universal Naming Convention) in which
you
> you can specify the comptuer name, share name, diretory name(s) and
> filenames all in one string. This was integrated into the operating
system
> starting with (I think) Windows 95.  In UNC, you use two slashes,
followed
> by a comptuer name, a slash, the share name, a slash, folder names, and
> finally the document name.  For example:
>
>         \\Computer\Share\dir1\dir2\file.txt
>
> This gives Windows something similar to what a Unix machine would have
> with a path like this:
>
>         computer:/dir1/dir2/file.txt
>
> The computer name in UNC format can either be the Windows NetBIOS/SMB
> name, or it can be a fully qualified domain name or IP address.(at least

> in recent versions of Windows)
>
>
> > b) How can I add the quotes at the end of this parameter so the
STRPCCMD
> > command can work correctly?
>
> You're already doing that correctly.  When I run your code, I get the
> quotes as expected.  All I can say is that you're probably getting a
> garbage character in the string somewhere.  Take a look at the parameter

> in hex to see if there's something besides x'40'.  It's not happening on

> my machine, but then I'm not calling the program the same way that you
> are.
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