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Tom, I think using amazon.com as an example of an order entry system is flawed, yes it may be a very powerful and complex as any green screen order system and it process millions of orders daily is exceptional but they have millions of order entry people (customers) entering those orders, and in general each order entry person enters one or two orders a day. The UI also has to be built for the lowest common denominator (dumbest customer) so that they aren't getting tens of thousands of calls to place those orders. With our green screen system we have 50 or so order entry personal trained on the order entry system, some with specialazations in specific very complex order types, and we put through 5,000 to 25,000 orders per day. Heads down green screen order entry by trained personal will, IMHO, always be more productive than any current GUI. Unless some kind of revolutionary UI comes into play I don't see that changing for years. Where the change is comming, at least at my shop and many/most others, is the realization that the customer is willing to do the work for us, taking their time to enter orders etc... for us. So like amazon.com and many others we are building browser UIs to our systems allowing our customers to become order entry personel for the company, who pay us to do it. Duane Christen -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tom Jedrzejewicz Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:54 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: The Perpetual Myth of iSeries Obsolescence On 5/3/06, Douglas W. Palme <dpalme@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Without wanting to sound as if I am completely negative, I could not > disagree with you more. > ... more time is wasted playing with the g-d forsaken mouse and > clicking on buttons than anything else I have ever seen. > ... users like to play and with a green screen (...) we have far > little of those issues and a hell of a lot more productivity. > ... it has to do with the fact there are no graphics and colorful > screens and browsers, etc. Initially, it sounded as if you don't like GUI is because of solitaire and web-browsing. Both are relatively easy to eliminate, so there must be more to it. Do you disagree with the assertion that a GUI application is more intuitive and easier to train? My view is that the GUI offers more opportunity to make an application powerful, intuitive and productive, because of color and object sizing, because of pictures, because of the lack of state/mode restrictions, and because of hyperlinking. I think that the amount of research and writing done about UI design is staggering, which will lead to better apps. Consider amazon.com; arguably their order entry app is as complex as any green screen order entry app, and they have millions of users on it daily. Would that be possible if the interface was green screen? I also think that whether you or I is correct is irrelevant. The world has made the decision for us; graphical UI is how things need to work. The green screen world is shrinking, and sooner or later a developer without gui experience is going to be unemployable. Take care -- Tom Jedrzejewicz tomjedrz@xxxxxxxxx
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