RE: Iseries Education and marketing

Don,

Don't forget that the computer love affair that you and I had has cooled
somewhat for the younger set. They just can't see the romance and adventure
that we did. If we were going to reenergize the field that's where we would
have to start. 

Jack Derham
Direct Systems, Inc.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Iseries Education and marketing


Jim...

yes and recall MS was using, I think, 27 of the LARGEST AS/400's in their 
day...HP is using iSeries(and leaving it shortly)....

Sure they use IBM technology, but we're talking specifically ISERIES or i5 
(to keep Trevor from howling at me).  Most of what's being used in major 
colleges and univ's is pSeries, zSeries and xSeries.  Yes, a few are using 
limited iSeries...but not many...and for limited functionality...and not 
for teaching a state of the art o/s....

Jim you need to reread all the postings on this list from those who's local 
school used to teach it but don't any more.  The most recent ones that 
point out that schools couldn't make classes minimum requirements when 
teaching iSeries but have full classrooms when teaching windows/unix!  Did 
you not read any of those?  THAT is the reality.  And why would they ask 
for stuff that they don't see a market for or a limited market for when 
they can FILL classrooms with other subject matter????

Yeah, I'm shoveling, but it's not snow, my friend... :)

Don in DC

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At 03:05 PM 1/18/2006 -0600, you wrote:
><snip>
>They'll have snow in hell before IBM follows Microsoft's lead on putting
>product and cirriculum in the schools.
></snip>
>
>Don,
>
>You would be amazed at the number of universities that are not only
>teaching IBM technology but using it.  Could it be better sure, but you
>better get your shovel out because it's snowing.  If you don't care to
>look you won't find it.  IBM assists in funding accredited schools for
>software and hardware.  All they have to do is ask!  Yes they have to
>agree to teach some things, but then IBM hands them the curriculum.  I
>have seen it and it is excellent.  They don't even have to develop the
>classes.
>
>Just because you don't see it, does not mean its not happening.  After all
>you live in DC, is there a better place to define fantasy?
>
>Jim
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