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I wonder also if commitment control is a factor here.  Do the triggered
updates need to be managed by the application's commit cycle?  I know that
we interrogate commit status in our external triggers, though we do not
currently use commitment control in our apps...  

Eric DeLong
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 3:21 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Trigger Question 



Jack
I don't where they got that recommendation. The Redbook SG24-6503 
entitled "Stored Procedures, Triggers and User Defined Functions on 
DB2 Universal Database for iSeries" has the following statement in 
the the Recommendations section of the External Triggers chapter 
(page 405 on the page, 423 in the PDF):

>You may need to have your trigger programs run asynchronously, for 
>example, when you want to trigger a long running process which 
>should not keep the application from proceeding. For this purpose, 
>you might use the Submit Job (SBMJOB) command. In this case, 
>applications cannot expect any kind of feedback from the trigger execution.

HTH
Vern

At 11:23 AM 12/17/2005, you wrote:

>To All,
>
>
>
>A discussion of Triggers the other day got a little heated when one member
>of the discussion said that IBM recommends that Trigger programs should not
>be designed to SBMJOB jobs but rather should do all of the processing
within
>the bounds of the trigger program itself. Of coarse, as is almost always
the
>case in these types of discussions, references were very scares, and the
>group of people quickly became polarized into pro and con camps. My search
>of the literature did not provide me with any concrete evidence one way or
>the other so I am turning to an excellent source of technical information
to
>get either literature references or personal experience stories to settle
>this question in a friendly and logical fashion. The basic question: Should
>Trigger programs when necessary be designed to Submit Jobs to complete
>required processing.
>
>
>
>By the way, A very Merry Christmas holiday to all members.
>
>
>
>Jack Derham
>
>Direct Systems, Inc.
>
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