Re: PTFs from Denmark -- MIDRANGE-L

(sheepishly and with a red face) apologies for my (uninformed) rant.
 Nice to hear that IBM has a good D-R plan in place, which reminds me...

 On 11/18/05, Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>
> Bruce,
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> thanks for clearing that up. It was getting a bit carried away...
>
> Don in DC
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> At 12:19 PM 11/18/2005 -0600, you wrote:
> >Before this goes too far here's what happened...........
> >
> >Boulder had a chemical spill in the manufacturing area which caused them
> to
> >close down for 3 to 4 days. IBM has backup arrangements in place (like
> >many of your companies I hope) so that an outage in one location causes
> the
> >work to be routed to a backup site. In this case Copenhagen took over PTF
> >distribution responsibility for Boulder and anyone ordering PTFs during
> >that time period would have been serviced out of Copenhagen. It's
> >unfortunate that this has caused confusion -- but it's a whole lot better
> >than not being able to get PTFs for 4 days...
> >
> >As a matter of historical trivia it is actually Copenhagen that was
> >originally used for PTF distribution and they've been distributing PTFs
> >since day one of OS/400 (1988) and that site continues to be used for
> >i5/OS. Over the years IBM has used sites in about a dozen countries such
> >as Brazil, Germany, and France for PTF media duplication and distribution
> >though currently the work is being performed in Boulder and Copenhagen.
> >Don't worry about where your PTF is distributed from. What has happened
> >here is an example of good old 24x7 system design.
> >
> >Bruce Vining
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Wayne McAlpine
> > <wayne.mcalpine@s
> > os.louisiana.gov <http://os.louisiana.gov>> To
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> > Re: PTFs from Denmark
> > 11/18/2005 09:43
> > AM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > Midrange Systems
> > Technical
> > Discussion
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I doubt if the Danes would be considered cheap labor. We in the US tend
> >to ignore the fact that IBM is a truly global company with a large
> >installed base in Europe. Companies reconfigure and consolidate their
> >operations all the time to minimize costs and operate more efficiently.
> > It's the reason RS6000 production was consolidated in Rochester.
> >Austin's loss, Rochester's gain. I don't see anything nefarious about it.
> >
> >Ron Adams wrote:
> > > Okay, I'll be the serious one here, for just a moment and answer the
> > > question.
> > > I was told by my BP who sold us our 520, that license keys and PTF
> > > deliviries are starting to move overseas, specifically, she mentioned
> > > Denmark, but to not be surprised if I got packages from other
> countries.
> > > Basically, and this is my own speculation, IBM is moving jobs to other
> > > countries as it makes business sense. Or, to put it bluntly, they're
> > > reducing costs, cutting US jobs, and employing foreign workers who can
> >work
> > > for less.
> > >
> > > On 11/17/05, Phil Groschwitz <ssc1478@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 11:00 -0500, Al Barsa wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>If it makes business sense for IBM, then they should do what they
> want.
> > >>>Not everything that IBM does makes business sense.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>Are they now shipped via DHL? If so, maybe DHL has a supply chain
> > >>distribution center in Denmark ;-)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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