RE: PTFs from Denmark

[michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

IBM have any opening for iSeries folks in Copenhagen? That's a marvelous
city (as is all of Denmark)...one of my favorite in the world.


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> Subject: Re: PTFs from Denmark
> From: Bruce Vining <bvining@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, November 18, 2005 1:19 pm
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Before this goes too far here's what happened...........
> 
> Boulder had a chemical spill in the manufacturing area which caused them to
> close down for 3 to 4 days.  IBM has backup arrangements in place (like
> many of your companies I hope) so that an outage in one location causes the
> work to be routed to a backup site.  In this case Copenhagen took over PTF
> distribution responsibility for Boulder and anyone ordering PTFs during
> that time period would have been serviced out of Copenhagen.   It's
> unfortunate that this has caused confusion -- but it's a whole lot better
> than not being able to get PTFs for 4 days...
> 
> As a matter of historical trivia it is actually Copenhagen that was
> originally used for PTF distribution and they've been distributing PTFs
> since day one of OS/400 (1988) and that site continues to be used for
> i5/OS.  Over the years IBM has used sites in about a dozen countries such
> as Brazil, Germany, and France for PTF media duplication and distribution
> though currently the work is being performed in Boulder and Copenhagen.
> Don't worry about where your PTF is distributed from.  What has happened
> here is an example of good old 24x7 system design.
> 
> Bruce Vining
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> I doubt if the Danes would be considered cheap labor.  We in the US tend
> to ignore the fact that IBM is a truly global company with a large
> installed base in Europe.  Companies reconfigure and consolidate their
> operations all the time to minimize costs and operate more efficiently.
>   It's the reason RS6000 production was consolidated in Rochester.
> Austin's loss, Rochester's gain.  I don't see anything nefarious about it.
> 
> Ron Adams wrote:
> > Okay, I'll be the serious one here, for just a moment and answer the
> > question.
> >  I was told by my BP who sold us our 520, that license keys and PTF
> > deliviries are starting to move overseas, specifically, she mentioned
> > Denmark, but to not be surprised if I got packages from other countries.
> > Basically, and this is my own speculation, IBM is moving jobs to other
> > countries as it makes business sense. Or, to put it bluntly, they're
> > reducing costs, cutting US jobs, and employing foreign workers who can
> work
> > for less.
> >
> >  On 11/17/05, Phil Groschwitz <ssc1478@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 11:00 -0500, Al Barsa wrote:
> >>
> >>>If it makes business sense for IBM, then they should do what they want.
> >>>Not everything that IBM does makes business sense.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Are they now shipped via DHL? If so, maybe DHL has a supply chain
> >>distribution center in Denmark ;-)
> >>
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