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Thanks Scott,
I have the current groups on order. This customer has me doing ptfs
2 times a year & this is all looking back at install 6 months ago. I
agree should always install as a group (and these were). For this 520
there have been a dozen or so ptf's that Svc Agent downloaded & I applied,
and I have had failures using sndptford to order groups and that is probably where this problem lies. The other "rant" I will add to this is wishing IBM would add a group for Printer ptfs. This site does a lot of lan, afp, ipds printing and am often
needing to get individuals. The Knowledge Base lists are nice but a group
would be better.
jim franz

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingvaldson, Scott" <SIngvaldson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: wrkptfgrp and status not installed


PTF Group             Level  Status
SF99530                5102  Installed
SF99529                  49  Installed
SF99503                   5  Not installed
SF99298                  13  Not installed

My guess is that you had successfully installed level 4 of SF99503 and
level 12 of SF99298, then something that you or Service Director did
updated the level and changed the status.  I have seen this happen when
ATTEMPTING to order a ptf group and having the order fail.  Check your
CD's to see if the levels match what is displayed.

In my mind this is an aggravating and confusing behavior.  Try getting
supportline to help you when your PTF Group status is "Not installed."
We recently had a problem with WAS Express and even though all of the
PTF's in the group were applied the tech would not help until the group
also showed "Installed."

In your case Jim, I would recommend ordering the groups and installing
them as a package.  I'm not sure that installing the individual ptf's
would update the group status, and doing it that way introduces a lot of
potential for errors.  BTW,  the current group # for DB2 is 6 ad the
current # for ESA is 15.

Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
iSeries System Administrator
GuideOne Insurance Group


-----Original Message-----
date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:19:26 -0500
from: "Jim Franz" <franz400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: wrkptfgrp and status not installed

i verified the "not founds " are truly not on system. Those installed
have install date time = to other groups that did install ok. It appears
(to me) the install of the DB2 group SF99503, which came on same
cd as Hipers SF99529 just did not "load" all the ptfs (but did load
some).

SI15985  5722QU1  V5R3M0   Temporarily applied
SI14600  5722QU1  V5R3M0   Temporarily applied
SI12109  5722QU1  V5R3M0   Temporarily applied
SI18198  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI18123  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17975  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17886  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17884  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17881  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17880  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17879  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17836  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17825  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Temporarily applied
SI17824  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17779  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
SI17757  5722SS1  V5R3M0   Not found
jim franz
----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Terry" <guy.terry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: wrkptfgrp and status not installed


Do an Option 5 against the Groups in error. This will display PTF's in

the group, and you'll be able to track down any that are causing the
'Not Installed' status and do a 5 against them to see why.

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