RE: SQL Optimizer Issue

>Would the above select statements help figure out the stats of the
file?

That would give you the _actual_ statistics, but the system maintains
stats specifically so it doesn't have to do that -- it's those
system-maintained stats I'm talking about. However, running those
queries might tell you what the actual distribution is, and that might
be useful to know.

-Walden 


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SELECT COUNT(*) FROM the_FILE

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM the_FILE WHERE PLAN = 'C'

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM the_FILE WHERE PLAN = 'B'

Would the above select statements help figure out the stats of the file?





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>They have not been able to find any rhyme or reason as to why "some" 
>names/plan combinations take so long. Anyone run
across
>this or have any ideas?

Lies, damn lies and STATISTICS! What's the distribution of data in the
file? And is there an index that the optimizer can use to determine it?

Just a guess, but the statistics that are out there says there are 5
records that start w/S, 5 that start w/Q, 5 that start w/M and
30,000,000 that start w/J. So when it goes to process 'Jones' it assumes
it would do better building a new index. Actually, I'll guess the
problem isn't on the name field, but on the plan field. Bet the _vast_
majority of your data is on plan 'C' -- or at least the statistics the
analyzer is using think they are.

I'm not sure how you can dump the statistics of a file. Anyone? Anyone?
Bueller?

-Walden


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when they run EXPLAIN over the SEQUEL it ALWAYS says it will use the
correct index

rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:No obscure logical file that has a selection
criteria specifying plan='B'
so it can't use that access path, is there?

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Posted for a colleague:

What I was told: A SEQUEL select statement is run over a very large
(50-60 Million records), select by name and a plan field. MOST of the
time results are returned quickly but for "some" names the statement
does not use the existing index and thus creates one, which causes about
a 20-30 minute response time. IBM support to date has not been able to
help and they ahve submitted a PMR to IBM but no response yet and it is
becoming (is) an issue.

Example:

Name=Smith Plan=B, quick response
Name=Jones Plan=C, takes forever

I was told that they have also tried it as a straight interactive SQL
and get the same issue. They have not been able to find any rhyme or
reason as to why "some" names/plan combinations take so long. Anyone run
across

this or have any ideas?


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