Re: Quick Poll regarding PTF management

1. yes - Hiper Group and DB Group do come with a cume. However, a cume no
longer automatically comes with a release upgrade, or even a new order. For
"pre-installed" OS, you may find a cume loaded also, but I have found it may
not be the latest one.

2. no - I would load hipers more often than only at cume time, and by making
it a hiper, IBM is telling you to install them! - but there are many
factors:
    Is your management going to support the downtime and effort to load
fixes more often?
    Are you running a fairly new release (like within 6 months of general
release)?
    Are you running with a new generation of hardware (not just the
processors, but disk, tape, anything? They tend to get a lot of the hipers.
    Are you expected to keep your system at a very high security level?
Those ptfs labelled "integrity"..
    And just like many Windows Admins are finding out - will you still have
a job if management finds out that last serious problem was for a fix
available many months ago and you chose not to install?
    This is a managers decision - how up to date do you stay vs the time &
money to do it?

I consider ptfs to be an integral part of both security and disaster
avoidance/recovery plans.
Build a plan and work it.

Jim Franz

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1 - Hipers and DB group come with a cume. (almost definitely sure of
that...)
2 - Hipers are High Impact and Persvasive PTFs... they are of 'serious'
import and have been found to have a widespread impact if not applied.

Having answered #2, it's been my practice to hold off and load Hipers and
such when doing any widespread PTF work (installing a new LICPGM or complex
app, or definitely with a cume).  Even with the pervasive nature of them,
it's been rare for me to actually run into the 'need' for them (your
mileage may vary...).  I consider Hipers to be very much the same as a cume
package, you should stay up to date with them as the opportunity arises to
get them applied.

As a rule of thumb I think they are probably always applied as the
opportunity permits.



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Simple answers only necessary, but feel free to provide your two cents
worth.

Question #1: Do group ptf's come with a cume package? Yes or No?

Question #2 - true or false: HIPER PTF's are for specific conditions that
exist and the rule of thumb is that you don't install them unless
absolutely needed or instructed by IBM? True or False?

Regards, Jerry

Gerald Kern
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IBM Certified RPG IV Developer, RPG IV Programmer
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