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Yeah my experiences have been similar over the years, one manager I worked for delighted in the fact he never spent his training budget, and could use it for other things he thought were more important, don't know how he got away with it really. However I have also seen the other side of the coin especially when SAP started to become popular, a friend of mine was IT manager for a company and they put in SAP, his staff stayed for an average of 6 months before leaving to take up lucrative freelance contracts, in the end they just could not afford to keep training staff and keep on contractors while they did it and pay for the SAP stuff so they got rid of SAP, don't know what he was paying them but it obviously wasn't enough to keep them, and I suppose he could not come close to freelance rates. I worked for one software house when PC's were just starting to rear their ugly heads so I asked for PC training. "Don't need it" said my manager, "once 'Silver Lake' (remember that chaps? :-) ) is released then everyone will want one of those, no one will ever want a PC again!" And as we know now he was totally correct wasn't he? :-) Mind you didn't stop him signing a support contract for one of our clients PC's the very next day, and I wonder if you can guess who had to do the support? Isn't it so embarrassing when all the users are stood around watching and waiting for you to do something and you haven't got a clue what to do? Steve -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of dkahn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 25 August 2005 11:18 To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: iSeries Education (was iSeries vs. zSeries) Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I used to work for a consultant. Their philosophy towards education > was that if they trained you it just made you more marketable and > you'd leave the company. Some consultant! The idea is to be able to charge a high rate for your people because they are superior. It costs a bit more to educate and keep them, sure, but the consultancy ought to be able to more than recoup that in their higher fees. Clients are not usually impressed when their own staff have to educate the consultants they're paying for (and neither are the client's staff for that matter). -- Dave... _________ ,___o __________ _\ <;_ http://www.audax.uk.net ___________ (_)/ (_) http://www.twickenhamcc.co.uk ======================================================= The opinions expressed in this communication are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. ______________________________________________________________________ This message may contain confidential information which may also be legally privileged and is intended only for the use of the parties to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any information in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. Further, we make every endeavour to keep our network free from viruses. However, you do need to verify that this e-mail and any attachments are free of viruses as we can take no responsibility for any computer viruses which might be transferred by way of this e-mail. All information and attachments remain the property of Stolt Offshore Group and should be held as confidential.
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