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Nice work Jim ! And you are correct in your previous frustration. We are a distributor and several of our vendors in the last year or so (and these are BIG, well known companies) have come to us and said they require all order to them to be entered via the web portal. Previously our purchasing department would enter the P.O. and it would automatically fax. Or we can send it via EDI. But so far these folks only want the GUI route. So our folks have to enter the order in our system and then enter the order in their system; until they support EDI with this. So all they have done is shift their "data entry" to us... Chuck -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Franz Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:26 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: ftp to kinkos.com i did ask their eCommerce Support Desk and they said they would take my "request". I actually have no doubt that eventually (if not already) fedex/kinkos will allow a server based transaction. Part of my frustration is that since I as a customer can only speak to the Support and Sales side of their business, I'm left with people who just don't get it. They sell & support what the designers built. I got more empathy from the actual store people who will process the orders. My problem (and sorry about the rant in prev post) is that many in this generation of mouse clickers think that the norm for everything is point & click. My hope is (and Brian perhaps you can confirm this) is that there is more being taught to student business managers, IT developers, analysts, etc. Perhaps a good discussion of the benefits of EDI? I do see this kind of thinking in RFID. Automated. I will be contacting kinkos again to pursue this. A few years ago I wrote a web based order entry for this same customer, and after user input from their customers as well as the staff, we designed & implented the system. Within a month, a new high volume customer came on and said, "we want to transmit you a file. This data's already in our system, why key it again." It was quite an arguement to explain to my customer that this was a legitimate request & should be a part of the system. It actually was fairly easy to add in. I had this in the original design scope, but my customer cut it out because no current customers had requested it. Jim
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