AW: IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference

sad but true. 

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> Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Juli 2005 12:22
> An: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Betreff: RE: IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference
> 
> Another part of the 'why iSeries DB2 is ignored' situation is the vast
> majority of iSeries programmers don't use the relational (ala DB2)
> features of the database. When you don't use SQL, and the closest you
> get to a query language is some OPNQRYF statement, the topics that are
> discussed in DB2 Magazine or the DB2 IMTC really don't apply. Folks on
> this list are different, but that's why they're on this list - they
> want to exploit the power of the iSeries, and they want to learn.
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: IBM DB2 Information Management Technical Conference
> > From: Alan Campin <Alan.Campin@xxxxxxx>
> > Date: Thu, June 30, 2005 9:20 pm
> > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > >> I have a subscrition to IBM's DB2 Magazine, but it 
> hardly ever mentions the 
> > >> AS/400. 
> > 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++++++++
> > >> I don't think that DB2 for AS400/iSeries has the same 
> > >> functionality/capabilities as the other flavours of DB2 
> mentioned (in the 
> > >> flyer) or covered (in the mag).
> > 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++++++++
> > 
> > Even the people who work on it don't know what the Iseries 
> is capable of!
> > 
> > The Iseries at one time was behind the rest but IBM has 
> brought the Iseries up to almost the same level and every 
> release adds more. 
> > 
> > I think you would find that the Iseries compares favorably 
> with any of the other versions but is so far ahead of the 
> others in one respect and that is stability. All other DB2's 
> run as jobs on top of the operating system. Iseries is part 
> of the operating system. When's the last time you heard of an 
> ISeries database having problems? 
> > 
> > Iseries has the functions and the stability. I know other 
> people working with DB2 on other platforms that sure don't 
> report that kind of experience. 
> > 
> > All this represents is the constant never ending battle 
> with IBM corporate. If it isn't a mainframe or runs on a 
> mainframe, it doesn't exist. I remember starting on the 
> System 38, 20 years ago and the hatred IBM corporate had for 
> the System 38. I don't things have changed very much. Can't 
> even get them to mention the name of the damn product at 
> shareholders meetings. 
> > 
> > IBM corporate has always treated the System 
> 38/AS400/iSeries/i5 as the enemy and continues to do so. So, 
> of course, they don't even mention the AS/400-Iseries in the 
> magazine or in a conference. We don't exist to them. They 
> just keep saying it over and over again. 
> > 
> > Oh well. Rant done.   
> > 
> > 
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