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We kill QINTER, QBATCH, etc.  Anything that might have a job that could
update a data file in the backup.  I think what he's saying is that if a
file gets updated after the checkpoint has been established for it the
checkpoint won't be valid and the pre-checkpoint version of the data will
be saved to tape.  Once the checkpoint has been established it's OK to
restart the subsystems and turn the users loose.  That's what the
SAVACTMSGQ parameter is for.

Our backup runs in its own subsystem that doesn't get shut down when QINTER
and QBATCH are whacked.  I imagine that if you had a large or busy machine
you could isolate your applications and do separate save-while-active's for
each file library such as one for BPCS, one for Kronos, one for JDE, etc.
assuming that each of them ran in their own subsystems.  In most cases that
would probably be overkill, extra administration, a potential for disaster,
and not get you that much.


Dave Parnin
Nishikawa Standard Company
Topeka, IN  46571
daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx




                                                                                
                                 
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>From: Al Barsa
>The checkpoint processing would complete, however your backup could be
bad!
>if your backup was bad because of updating during the checkpoint, save
>would still tell you that you have a good save!

Huh!!!?????!!!?!?

Are you telling me that the backup would say it was fine but I couldn't
restore to that point in time (including apply of journal receivers)????


-Walden

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