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Re: Death of SNA?

Thanks for the link to the article.  One of the most pertinent points:
"Sources say that IBM has not decided yet if Enterprise Extender will be 
part of i5/OS or a separate licensed program product with its own fee, but 
what is known is that it will be tightly integrated into i5/OS such that 
most SNA applications that are running today will run without 
modifications, and those that do need modifications will involve changes 
to network settings, not application code. "


I think your reply can be summarized into, "APPC and SNA on the iSeries 
will continue to be supported only if you get Enterprise Extender", true? 
Or can you continue to run any of these without Enterprise Extender?

Rob Berendt
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After reading the various posts on this discussion thread, I feel that 
some clarification on the recent V5R3 planning statement regarding SNA 
communications may be in order. 

There are no plans to discontinue the support of the numerous APPC based 
applications shipped on i5/OS including DDM, Display Station Passthru, and 

the various SNADs applications ( SNDNETF, SNDNETMSG, SNDNETSPLF, SNDDST). 
These IBM supplied APPC applications as well as any user supplied APPC 
applications will continue to be supported.  The message being conveyed by 

the planning statement is that most SNA applications will continue to be 
supported, but the underlying transport mechanism for supporting these 
applications will be IP based.

With Enterprise Extender support, which will be supported in a future 
release, the APPC applications will be able to run over IP.  Enterprise 
Extender is a technology that has been widely accepted in the industry for 

addressing the problem of allowing SNA traffic to flow over an IP based 
networking infrastructure.  Enterprise Extender will have significant 
advantages over the AnyNet support provided on i5/OS.  It will be easier 
to configure than AnyNet, provide better performance than AnyNet, and it 
will also support dependent LU traffic (3270 emulation, RJE, DHCF, NRF, 
SNUF) up to the mainframes when used in conjunction with Dependent LU 
Requester (DLUR) support. 

The following article published last week by Timothy Prickett Morgan 
provides some additional information on this topic. 

http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh050905-story01.html







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Good question.

There are multiple parts of SNDDST.  There's the use of it to perform the 
like function of SNDNETMSG.  Then there's the use of it to send email out.

Here, we already use a "command exit program" to convert SNDDST into Dave 
Leland's SNDEMAIL.  If I truly knew if that was dropping, I'd modify the 
program to let the programming manager know of yet another program that 
has SNDDST buried in it that needs to be modified.

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Where does that leave SNDDST?

Thanks,

Mark

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http://www.mcpressonline.com/mc/.6b24cce2

Claims that the release after V5R3 will be the last to support SNA.

Confirmation from IBM:
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/support/planning/futuresftwr.html





http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/support/planning/nav.html

Items affected:
SNDNETF
SNDNETMSG
SNDNETSPLF
etc.

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