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Bruce brought up some interesting points about the IFS, and I will study this. However, I still have concerns regarding test ptf's, programs that DON'T get upgraded with each release of OS/400, and Domino issues that say "remove all ptf's from domino product Y, load new version of domino product X, reapply the ptf's for Domino product Y. Oh, you applied the ptf's permanently for Domino product Y? Then delete it and reinstall it." But this is all in the archives. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Jones, John \(US\)" <John.Jones@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 04/28/2005 07:15 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: GO Save Option 21 You know, though, if you've been running at that PTF level for a while without any issues, and since in this case it's applying them perm immediately before an OS upgrade which should replace all that code anyway, I don't see any harm in doing the apply other than the downtime for the (probably necessary) IPL to do the apply. John A. Jones, CISSP Americas Information Security Officer Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782 john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MWalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:05 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: GO Save Option 21 You're preaching to the choir, brother. But she's old school. Thanks, Mark Mark D. Walter Senior Programmer/Analyst CCX, Inc. mwalter@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.ccxinc.com rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounce To s@xxxxxxxxxxxx Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 04/27/2005 04:36 cc PM Subject Re: GO Save Option 21 Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> It's not only not necessary, it can be downright dangerous, but I've said enough on that on some of my recent posts. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com MWalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 04/27/2005 03:32 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: GO Save Option 21 That looks like the plan right now. We're planning our upgrade to V5R3, and I always like to get a 21 save before. Just in case. Plus my boss insists on applying all of the PTFs *perm before the upgrade. I don't think it's necessary any more, but I do what I'm told. Thanks, Mark Mark D. Walter Senior Programmer/Analyst CCX, Inc. mwalter@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.ccxinc.com Scott Klement <midrange-l@scott klement.com> To Sent by: Midrange Systems Technical midrange-l-bounce Discussion s@xxxxxxxxxxxx <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc 04/27/2005 04:21 Subject PM Re: GO Save Option 21 Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> Hi Mark, There's a field that you can set on the SAVE 21 screen to make it delay until a certain time. So, you could just sign on to the system console on Friday before you leave the office and tell it to wait. If that doesn't do the job, you can also edit the source code. Use RTVCLSRC on program QMNSAVE to get the source code, then you can add delays or whatever you need. (I wouldn't actually change the IBM-supplied object, but you could make your own copy and use that...) I don't know if it'll work as a batch job, or if it needs to be interactive -- but, at least for us, the system console can just be left on over the weekend, so we can set it up with a DLYJOB or two and then I don't have to make a special trip into the office. --- Scott Klement http://www.scottklement.com On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 MWalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > At V5R2, can GO SAVE option 21 be submitted as a batch job to QCTL? > I'd like to do a complete system save, then an IPL, but I don't want > to have to > come in on a Saturday Night at midnight. 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