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I am curious if anyone here has seen Oracle installations that are coming in "cheaper"? I've seen 2 attempts at conversions and "cheaper" stopped being used when the Oracle consultants started showing up in pairs - every Oracle worker bee had an assigned supervisor that trailed along to "liase" was the term, I believe. --------------------------------- Booth Martin http://www.martinvt.com --------------------------------- -------Original Message------- From: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Date: 04/07/05 10:59:30 To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: RE: The IBM iSeries word from FOSE... Yikes...tripping over quarters to pick up nickles... Best of luck on the transition... > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: The IBM iSeries word from FOSE... > From: boyd bill <bill.boyd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Thu, April 07, 2005 11:01 am > To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > I was just told in a meeting last week that we have to move off of the > AS/400 and to something cheaper and that will support Oracle starting next > year. While I doubt it will actually happen next year since we always seem > to be behind, it does seem inevitable that our iseries days are numbered at > my shop. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don [mailto:dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:40 AM > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: The IBM iSeries word from FOSE... > > > Here in DC, we have an annual BIG expo of techno vendors, wares, etc. > It's kinda like the governments COMDEX if you will, it's just better run > and attended than COMDEX. > > Dell had a BIG booth and well staffed. > > HP had a BIG booth and well staffed... > > Apple had a BIG booth and well staffed... > > ...as did alot of the major vendors....and these booths were BUSY. > > IBM's booth, when I finally found it, was one guy sitting on a corner > postage stamp size of space with a little sign attached to a xSeries > cluster server saying "Linux DB2". When I poped by to see what was going > on, he was complaining that his blade server had been stolen the night > before. When I asked him about ANY ANY ANY iSeries representation at the > conference, I was told there wasn't any and further"...I don't do > AS/400..." Frankly, it was safer for me to just walk away. > > SO, is it any wonder that people here don't think of iSeries as > contemporary technology? Is it any wonder that people here are very eager > to buy Dell and HP Servers? > > Has ANYONE in Somers reviewed the current sales/marketing model (beyond > radio/TV/Print spots) and seen where it REALLY NEEDS to be improved? > > No, you may not book alot of sales at a FOSE type event, BUT you do > get/keep market recognition...something that OS/400 has very little of > anymore. > > Is it really any wonder why in our User Group meeting this week I was once > again deluged by people lamenting how hard it is to find work on a > AS400/iSeries/i5/(insert name here) ??? > > I don't give a damn if you call me a cormudgeon or not! I'm in the > trenches here and I'm getting lots of calls for help from folks that are > seriousely looking for work....and there's REAL REASONS why there is > none... Starting with "...I don't do AS/400...." and the current sales > models. > > Don in DC > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. .
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