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I see how allowing both SQL, and the READ, WRITE genre allows developers the ability to choose what works best for the project. There is something to be said for portability, but often I think that's overrated. The people who often argue for portability often define any language that only runs on a proprietary legacy system such as Windows as portable. Often it is seen that making an application in which the base code is truly portable is either tuned to only run well on one of the platforms, or runs lousy on them all. I think businesses can be better served if the application is portable. For example Domino runs on multiple platforms: iSeries, Linux, Unix, Windows. Do you flop the same code? No. But the application data? Sure. Applications that are compatible with other database engines? Are there truly applications that jump around from one database engine to the next? For example is there an ERP package that touts that it runs well under Oracle, DB2, SQL Server, actively marketed to all those environments and actually has more customers in each other than a number barely above "proof of concept"? Is there a single customer that runs this package under multiple databases? Let's say someone who has a division running it under SQL Server, and another running it under Oracle. But basically the same package? (And not just a subset for presentation or business analysis.) Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Dave Odom" <Dave.Odom@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 03/08/2005 03:49 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: Logical File or OPNQRYF or any other way ? - Legacy Rob, You wrote: "What 'back door' were you thinking of?" The ability to get to supposedly a relational database via access verbs such as READ, WRITE, etc. If the iSeries were truly relational, that would not be allowed. "I didn't understand the last two sentences." I'm not sure which ones to which you are referring. "Are you trying to say that any file access, outside of imbedded SQL, is what makes it non relational?" I'm not comfortable with the term "imbedded SQL" as that implies to me imbedded in a program, but the simple answer is Yes, a truly relational database must only be accessed via one language, in all cases, and in the truly relational world, the defacto is SQL. "And this is a bad thing?" Yes, it violates the essence of what Codd was saying, and what he was saying was often oriented toward what is best for good database and application development architecture for the near and long term. To wit..., allowing multiple access verbs and paths, does not conform to the rest of the truly relational world if you want applications built that are compatible with other relational database engines your company might need to consider and for which there is a good supply of traditionally trained employees in relational database and application design. I don't know about you but business leaders I've consulted with don't like having an environment that is not flexible thus making things harder when it comes to M&A activity or expansion or downsizing. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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