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TSM was a very bad example. It's a great product. But IBM has stopped supporting any new releases of TSM for PASE. In fact the newest release of TSM will not run under PASE. To put it on an i5 requires either AIX or Linux. Well, they might have client support for the latest release. But who uses TSM to back OS/400? http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg246638.pdf Chapter 8 8.4.1 PASE support discontinued PASE is no longer supported in IBM Tivoli Storage Manager at the 5.3 level. It is suggested that iSeries Linux is the alternative. The iSeries people (AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL!!!) do not know who made this decision. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com <wdjohnston@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 02/14/2005 03:59 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: PASE runtime going away!!!! My guess it that the feature is being retired, but you have to remember, in V4R5 and V5R1 PASE was a separately configured feature which cost $100. In V5R2 is was incorporated into the operating system as option 33 of 5722SS1. PASE itself will not go away quietly. IBM is marketing some of it's premier tools under the PASE envelope. The iSeries implementation of TSM being just one of them. Wayne Johnston Integrity Technology, LLC ___ Hopefully someone with more knowledge of the new AIX support will correct me if I'm wrong. I thought that PASE brought the ability to run AIX code in the same partition as OS400 and that the AIX support recently added was the ability to run AIX in a partition of its own. I see these as 2 very different things. Kurt-----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:37 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: RE: PASE runtime going away!!!! I'd like to hear more discussion on what it means to someone using it for DNS... we're setup with DNS on iSeries and really like the setup (for many reasons). We've got it configured and think of it as "OS/400 DNS" and won't be interested in bringing AIX into the organization for this purpuse. I'm thinking that there will be some way to handle DNS on the iSerieswithout having to go full blown AIX... that would be a major disservice to many AS400 shops. Don <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To Sent by: Midrange Systems Technical midrange-l-bounce Discussion s@xxxxxxxxxxxx <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc 02/14/2005 10:39 Subject AM RE: PASE runtime going away!!!! Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> hopefully they'll get the pricing issues figured out by then. Frankly, I'm running AIX on a pseries right now and it's a REALLY CHEAP solution compared to running AIX on iSeries hardware. Make sure you price out the differences before you buy... On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > I'm using PASE on a 270 and a partitioned 825. I *think* the message > here is that if you want to run AIX apps on a new box, you'll need > 'real' AIX, not just the run-time. I don't think it will affect > existing boxes. I wonder if V5R2 PASE will work on V5R3? > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: PASE runtime going away!!!! > > From: "Wilt, Charles" <CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Mon, February 14, 2005 10:03 am > > To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (E-mail)" > > <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > All according to this article: > > http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh021405-story04.html > > > > "On that same day (April 1st), IBM also plans to withdraw the OS/400 PASE AIX runtime environment (feature 5732 of OS/400) from marketing, as well as its feature 1893 36.4 GB, 10K RPM disk drives. Now that the i5 supports the real AIX, IBM doesn't want to sell customers an AIX runtimeenvironment or pay to support it on older machines. Customers who want to run Unix applications on their OS/400 platforms will just have to upgrade to i5s and run the real AIX." > > > > > > WTF? I don't explicitly use PASE at present, but I was under the impression that some of the new features in OS/400, (DNS, C++ compiler maybe?) were actually AIX executables running in PASE. How can they kill it off? > > > > Seems like that could cause some problems to those on older but recent boxes such as my 810. > > > > How exactly does the dropping work? If I order v5r3 now will it have PASE but if I order it after March 1 it won't? > > > > Charles Wilt > > iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer > > Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America > > ph: 513-573-4343 > > fax: 513-398-1121 > > > > > > -- > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxTo subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxBefore posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. 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