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Don,

This is not consistent with what IBM told me.  What IBM told me is that
Oracle maintenance was 22%, but this was long before they bought
PeopleSoft, which bought JDE.  Likely the information was only referring to
their database product, but what do I know about Oracle?  I only am
knowledgeable about the best computing product in the world; the one that
customers call the AS/400.  The information may be dated, but this is what
I was told by an IBM VP in late 9/01.  If you need me to research further,
please reply by private e-mail.

Al - in Tampa - home tomorrow

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

"i" comes before "p", "x" and "z"
e gads

Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor!

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com
http://www.as400connection.com



                                                                           
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Well, I have Oracle licenses for both Windows and Unix....it's part of the
testing lab I have here....and their annual rates are REALLY cheap.  And
to get an upgrade, I DON'T have to call a bizneez partner, pay a TONNE of
dough after determining how many tears I have to shed from what tier I'm
in....it's a simple phone call and it shows up 3 days later...it's almost
as easy as ordering AIXL o/s upgrades....   Damn be nice if getting OS/400
upgrades was that easy and cheap...

Don in DC

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Al Barsa wrote:

>
> Pardon me, but, I'm not an Oracle guru, but 22% has been their annual
> maintenance rate since about (circa) 2000.  Da fax is what the fax is.
As
> these products get mature, these are the kind of maintenance numbers they
> need to charge.
>
> Al - in Florida - I gave two talks to the Orlando Users Group last night,
> and will do another tonight in Tampa. Maybe water-skiing in the
> meantime!!!!!!!!  OK.  Maybe there are some perks in this job!
>
> Al Barsa, Jr.
> Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
>
> 400>390
>
> "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z"
> e gads
>
> Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor!
>
> 914-251-1234
> 914-251-9406 fax
>
> http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> http://www.taatool.com
> http://www.as400connection.com
>
>
>
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> We all know they (Oracle) committed to not doing away with JDE. Although
> third-party MA's are available, what is going to be the migration of
> customers in a few months time?
>
>
>
> JDE Shops Have Plenty of Options for Third-Party Maintenance
> by Alex Woodie
>
> J.D. Edwards shops cringing at the thought of writing 22 percent
> maintenance checks to Oracle can rest a little easier knowing there
> are other options, and the ranks of companies offering third-party
> maintenance programs for World and EnterpriseOne are growing quickly.
> Two weeks ago, yet another Denver, Colorado, company threw its hat
> into the third-party maintenance ring, joining three others that have
> done the same since December.
>
> Read more at http://www.itjungle.com/fhs/fhs020805-story01.html
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