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Yes.  Just a LOT less secured output queues.

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Rob,

How is it set on the other system ? Same profile ?

Chuck

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Dan,

Thanks for the suggestions.  As I said earlier, my QSTRUP is unmodified 
but I checked again by doing
DSPSYSVAL SYSVAL(QSTRUPPGM)
Startup program  . . . . . . :   QSTRUP
  Library  . . . . . . . . . :     QSYS
CRTSRCPF FILE(QTEMP/QCLSRC)
RTVCLSRC PGM(QSYS/QSTRUP) SRCFILE(QTEMP/QCLSRC)
DSPPFM FILE(QTEMP/QCLSRC)
And it has:
DONE: 
     QSYS/STRSBS SBSD(QSPL)
     MONMSG MSGID(CPF0000) 
     QSYS/RTVSYSVAL SYSVAL(QSTRPRTWTR) RTNVAR(&STRWTRS)
     IF COND(&STRWTRS = '0') THEN(GOTO CMDLBL(NOWTRS)) 
     CALL PGM(QSYS/QWCSWTRS) 
     MONMSG MSGID(CPF0000) 
NOWTRS: 

However:
DSPOBJD OBJ(QSYS/QWCSWTRS) OBJTYPE(*PGM)
Last used date is blank.  (Based on later data, this field must not be 
updated by this call.)

DSPSYSVAL QSTRPRTWTR
1=Start

DSPLOG:
CPF1804-Subsystem QSPL in library QSYS starting.
...  from job 661979/QPGMR/QSTRUPJD
WRKJOB JOB(661979/QPGMR/QSTRUPJD)

Dan, you turned a light on with your QSTRUP job comment.  Granted QSTRUP 
is the program, not the job.  But it did inspire me harder to find the 
startup job.  And that one last look in the joblog found it as 
661979/QPGMR/QSTRUPJD.  There are numerous errors in that joblog.  All 
like:
CPF3464 - Not authorized to output queue
We secure almost all of our output queues.  QPGMR (the runner of the 
QSTRUPJD job) has access to squat.

Anyone see a security issue with CHGJOBD JOBD(QSYS/QSTRUPJD) 
USER(GODLIKE)?

Rob Berendt
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You should have some lines in your QSTRUP like this:

     QSYS/RTVSYSVAL SYSVAL(QSTRPRTWTR) RTNVAR(&STRWTRS) 
     IF COND(&STRWTRS = '0') THEN(GOTO CMDLBL(NOWTRS)) 
     CALL PGM(QSYS/QWCSWTRS) 
     MONMSG MSGID(CPF0000) 
NOWTRS: 

That program, QWCSWTRS should be rockin' through all your printer device 
configurations looking for ones that are set for ONLINE *YES and starting 
them up. If there's a problem, it should be in the job log of your QSTRUP 
job.

Note that TCP/IP starts up asynchronously in the QSTRUP. We've had some 
problems with remote writers starting because TCP/IP wasn't fully 
operational by the time QSTRUP hit the print writer startup. Not a big 
deal, just re-arrange your QSTRUP or even put a WAIT in it.

Dan




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I figured that out and, yes it is set for online *yes

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Sorry I left out part of this:

If you do a (WRKCFGSTS *DEV P01A01) on the 570 is it set for online at IPL
*YES?

Then take option 8, then option 5, page down until you see the online at 
IPL
value.  You can change it by using option 2 instead of option 5. 

Sorry for the confusion!


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Trying to figure out what starts printer writers.

Significant situational facts:

Two i5's.  Both running V5R3 and comparable ptf levels.
CHGIPLA on both machines both have STRPRTWTR(*YES)
DSPSYSVAL QSTRPRTWTR on both machines is set to 1=Start
DSPSYSVAL QSTRUPPGM on both machines point to QSYS/QSTRUP.
DSPPGM QSYS/QSTRUP on both machines looks like:
Program creation date/time . . . . . . . . . . . :   12/04/03  12:50:07
Type of program  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :   OPM 
Source file  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :   S000039122 
  Library  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :     $BLDSS1 
Source member  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :   S000039122 
Source file change date/time . . . . . . . . . . :   11/30/03  20:06:43

There is a writer P01A01 on both machines.

Doing a DSPLOG PERIOD((0915 011505)) JOB(P01A01) where the time and date 
is based on the start time/date of subsystem QCTL shows thus on our 520:
Job 494913/QSPLJOB/P01A01 started on 01/15/05 at 09:17:06
Nothing in it's joblog indicates where it was spawned from.

Doing a DSPLOG PERIOD((1900 011505)) JOB(P01A01) where the time and date 
is based on the start time/date of subsystem QCTL shows thus on our 570:
(nothing until the writer was manually started this morning)

****************************************************************************
*************************
Why is it started on the 520 and not on the 570?  Why did it not even 
attempt to start in on the 570?
****************************************************************************
*************************

DSPSBSD SBSD(QSPL)
All options are identical on both machines.
DSPJOBD JOBD(QGPL/QSPLSTRWTR)
All options are identical on both machines.


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