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Not only does management allow that, they demand it and I as a manager 
expect no less from my programming staff.

I could never in good conscience give a buggy or incomplete 
program/application to my users.

In addition, as was said in another post, this shows the shortcomings and 
danger of relying on the Microsoft platform for your business processes.

To keep this somewhat on topic for the list, when was the last time you 
heard of a program or application bringing down an i5/iSeries/AS/400?  I'd 
venture to say never since IBM's operating system won't let an application 
programmer do the kind of damage that you can do on the Windoze platform.

Thank you,
Ronald L. Zimmerman
I.T. Applications Manager
Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
"The Good for You Company"
Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx




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while noble, does your management allow that?  Remember, we are talking
applications, not just little report program or support program.





 

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I'm sorry, but that makes no sense to me.  As a programmer for well over

30 years I would be ashamed to put out programs with the kind of errors in

them that Microsoft produces.  When I put a program into production I

expect it to be the best it can be.  That's not to say that my programs

never have errors or glitches in them, but I am saying that I don't

knowingly put out something that is incomplete or buggy!  That can't be

said about Microsoft - they obviously are more interested in getting the

product out the door, no matter what shape it's in!

 

Thank you,

Ronald L. Zimmerman

I.T. Applications Manager

Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com

"The Good for You Company"

Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

 

 

 

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Bill Gates has done one thing for our industry and it should not be

belittled.  The new paradigm is to get software out there for users to

touch

and feel.  Don't worry about glitches.  If the users like it, fix it.  If

they reject it, go on to something else and keep your losses small.  That

makes sense to me.

 

 

 

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Booth Martin

 

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I really loved DeGroot's line about

 

> Microsoft was founded by programmers and is still run by programmers

 

 

 

Try "Founded (and still run) by LOUSY programmers"!

 

 

 

Can you imagine if the software for the Apollo program were written by

 

Microsloth, instead of by MIT's finest minds? All those "1201 program

 

alarms" probably would have LITERALLY crashed the Lunar Module.

 

 

 

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