Re: Why NOT the web? -- MIDRANGE-L

I'm definitely seeing how I might have been wrong.  I guess I'll just
have to go on the fact that the APP that THEY developed is garbage. 
But it could have been done right, maybe.

I think they are using Oracle.

I had a laugh once when I was at a client in Chino, CA.  They were
replacing an Iseries app with a sweet oracle/blah blah application.

An electrician in the computer room knocked out power.  The UPS's
kicked in.  They called me asked me what to do about the 400.  I told
them it would shut down if utility power wasn't restored, then come up
again, no problem.

They called the admin of the oracle box, an outsourced guy who worked
locally, he ran in to the computer room (wearing sandals!), and
pleaded with the electrician to get the power restored since if his
box ran out of power, it would take days to restart.

That was fun.

Sure, maybe he was dumb and didn't know how to set things up, but the
point is, that's always what I see.   Inferior machines next to some
perfectly reliable Iseries.  But the Iseries always stays there.

Art


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:26:07 -0600, pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
<pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Unfortunately, I think you're right about the prospect of outsourcing. You
> already mentioned someone from "over there".
> 
> 
> Paul Nelson
> Arbor Solutions, Inc.
> 708-670-6978  Cell
> pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> "Art Tostaine, Jr." <atostaine@xxxxxxxxx>
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> 
> Rob:
> 
> I do web programming, they've been shown it.  Their decision to move
> away is to move away from their entire IT setup.  Including me I
> guess.
> 
> I even showed them screen shots of Joe's product and described it to them.
> 
> They think that they are going to completely outsource their IT
> department.
> 
> Me, I've been outsourced before by cheap labor/wintel machines.  I
> bought a new F150 last time.  :-)  I'm still there too.
> 
> Joe, if I stick my 5250 screens in a product like yours, then I still
> get heads down data entry that I like.  But if I rewrite from ground
> up in .NET, I've got to do all that stuff over.  If their goal was
> simply to be in the browser, perhaps I would have been consulted, but
> there is something else at work here.  Something.... evil?
> 
> Art
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