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Have you looked at the product(s) from Look Software? www.looksoftware.com
How about ASNA? www.asna.com
How about Joe Pluta's stuff? www.plutabrothers.com
The SEQUEL Web Interface allows you to build queries in a green screen or 
on a PC, and deploy them to be run thru a browser. ASC also has a product 
called RIO that permits converting RPG into object oriented code. 
www.asc-iseries.com

If the iSeries will support what you're trying to do, there is no valid 
business reason to abandon this server. In fact, when you get your new 
applications running thru a browser, you'll look like a hero for 
delivering these apps without having to buy a new server.... :-))

These are very good products that allow you to preserve your investment in 
your RPG/CLP code.


Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
708-670-6978  Cell
pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx





"Art Tostaine, Jr." <atostaine@xxxxxxxxx>
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        Subject:        Why NOT the web?


I have a customer that wants to re-develop their entire "ERP" solution
using .NET.  The  stuff they have rewritten already, for instance,
will replace my RPG Pick Ticket Entry.  Pick Ticket is really nothing
more than an order.  Header/detail transactional stuff.

Most of the pick tickets come in through EDI and other methods, but
nearly all of them are reviewed on screen and manifested for delivery.

There are other procedures, like manual carton reallocation, Wave
picks, etc, that are all in RPG SFL's, and some C/S using windows
Visual screens, which they like very much.  My RPG stuff prints
100,000+ labels a day.  IT's lots of records, lots of database
searches, lots of EDI's, etc.

Actually, when I say web, I mean browser based.  They will use IE.

I've told them that the web is not for this kind of stuff, it's for
customer service, inquiries, simple ordering, etc.

They've asked me to tell them why.

So, even though I KNOW it's wrong to go that way, I can't think of how
to make my point.  How would YOU tell them?

I'm hoping Joe Pluta is listening.  This one is right up his alley.

The customer in question used to be a big one for me, but lately, not.
 I guess it's because they are moving to .NET, but that's no skin off
my nose.  I'll stay busier for the long run because the .NET thing
will never work.

This to me is a classic example of, let's get off the 400 and go to
.NET because it's on TV.  It's got to be good.

BTW, the examples I've seen have no capabilty for search screens, like
customer name,  terms codes, etc.  The Indian Liason says that's not
possible on the web.  My reply to my customer was, isn't that enough
proof that the web isn't good for this stuff, but apparently it isn't.

I've written some very nice inquiry stuff using Lansa for the Web, and
I have nice search screens :-)

Something strange is going on at this company, because everyone they
show the project to says it's awful and not close to completion,
except for the main guy who green lighted it in the first place.

The execs think that people like me will just tell them it's awful
because I will lose my job, but that's not how I work.  They think the
employees in IT that are going to be outsourced are trying to save
their jobs.  They've just given the Indian another payment so he can
continue.  I think someone is on the take, but that's another story.

I guess really I'm asking for my own knowledge, since I don't hope to
convince anyone at this future out of business company (FOOBCO).

Thanks.

-- 
Art Tostaine (GMAIL)
CCA, Inc.
Jackson, NJ 08527
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