RE: Spam:RE: Is the Barsa Group running a lottery?

I stand corrected.  However, the flyer didn't claim it as a door prize,
it claimed that if I registered I'd be eligible to win. 

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Brandt Sr.
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:19 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: Spam:RE: Is the Barsa Group running a lottery?

This is not a "Lottery" and doesn't meet the definition of a lottery or
sweepstake. It is a "Door prize" and not intended for the general
public. It is intended for participants in a particular event. 
<snip>
United States Code
   Title 18
        Section 1307. Exceptions relating to certain advertisements and
other 
                    information and to State-conducted lotteries 
      (a) The provisions of sections 1301, 1302, 1303, and 1304 shall
    not apply to -
        (1) an advertisement, list of prizes, or other information
      concerning a lottery conducted by a State acting under the
      authority of State law which is -
          (A) contained in a publication published in that State or in
        a State which conducts such a lottery; or
          (B) broadcast by a radio or television station licensed to a
        location in that State or a State which conducts such a
        lottery; or
        (2) an advertisement, list of prizes, or other information
      concerning a lottery, gift enterprise, or similar scheme, other
      than one described in paragraph (1), that is authorized or not
      otherwise prohibited by the State in which it is conducted and
      which is -
          (A) conducted by a not-for-profit organization or a
        governmental organization; or
************************
          (B) conducted as a promotional activity by a commercial
        organization and is clearly occasional and ancillary to the
        primary business of that organization.
************************
</snip>

What you noted applies to mass advertising and marketing to the general
public, not a company attempting to promote attendance at a seminar.

Just my humble opinion, I could be wrong.

John Brandt
iStudio400.com
(903) 523-0708
Home of iS/ODBC - MSSQL access from iSeries and RPG. 




-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Ackerman [mailto:CAckerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:38 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Is the Barsa Group running a lottery?


I just received an invitation to the "iSeries & AS/400 Connection
Conference" in Naples, Florida put on by The Barsa Group.  On it there
is a drawing for four IBM ThinkPad's.  However, to be eligible to win
the ThinkPad one must register and pay for the conference.

Under federal law this constitutes a lottery and is illegal.  In order
for it to qualify for a giveaway then there must be no purchase
required.  I have worked for many companies that have had giveaways and
drawings and know of this first hand.  I wonder if the guys at Barsa
Consulting Group really thought this through!

 More info here:
http://articles.corporate.findlaw.com/articles/file/00525/009727

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