RE: *** ADMIN: Spamming

David, is there any way you could eliminate the from on the emails and
replace it with a general email address, something like from:
anyname@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  Remember that all the emails are in the midrange
files and can be harvested from there.

One more thing, if you don't want your email address harvested, stop
including it on the signature of your emails.  Paul just gave everybody his
email and cel number here.

Let's call him. :D



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-----Original Message-----
From: pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:33 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: *** ADMIN: Spamming

You think this is bad, you should see all the spam I get at my COMMON email
address. I've reported it at least a dozen times to half a dozen different
people, but nobody has done anything.


Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
708-670-6978  Cell
pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx





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> Personally I wouldn't be surprised if it is Rochester Initiative.  
> They spammed me at work in the past.

I receive about 200 spams a day, but none are from Rochester Initiative. 
I used to get spam from them way back when my e-mail address was
infosys'at'klements.com... but since I discontinued that account, I no
longer get anything from them.  (There was a day that I received over 200000
spams on that account -- from all different people -- but two hundred
thousand in ONE DAY was too much for me, so I closed it.)

There are many other iSeries businesses that do spam me, however.  That's
why I switched my e-mail from my old address (klemscot'at'klements.com) to 

having a different address for each mailing list. I'm trying to figure out 

where they're getting my name from.

> Last week they spammed me at home at my domain registration email 
> address, which they could have only gotten by harvesting domain 
> registration email addresses or name server SOA admin email addresses 
> (or buying a dirty address list from someone else).

IMHO, that's a MUCH bigger problem.  Especially people who have their
database messed up.

I've been receiving a ton of e-mail from iSeries400Experts.com.  They've got
the e-mail address that I used to register my domain (which isn't used 

for any other purpose, so it's obvious that they mined it from somewhere.)

All of their messages start with "Dear Mark" or something to that effect.
I haven't a clue who Mark is. In the 20 years that I've worked here, we've 

never had an IT person named Mark.

I also received a lot of spam that had my e-mail address, but was addressed
to "John Englehart".  I have never heard of this person, and haven't the
foggiest idea why I'd be getting e-mail that's addressed to him.

Spam is a problem that may eventually kill e-mail as a viable form of
communication.

Currently, if you watch my personal e-mail logs (this is just my personal
domain, not that of a company) you'll see 2-3 spam attempts PER SECOND. 
the logs look like this:

Dec 22 11:08:57 nixie sm-mta[24390]: iBMH8tLw024390: 
<sheehan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>... User unknown Dec 22 11:08:58 nixie
sm-mta[24390]: iBMH8tLw024390: 
<sheets@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>... User unknown Dec 22 11:08:58 nixie
sm-mta[24390]: iBMH8tLw024390: 
<sheffield@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>... User unknown Dec 22 11:08:58 nixie
sm-mta[24390]: iBMH8tLw024390: 
<shelton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>... User unknown

Those are the ones that don't get through, of course. There aren't as many 

that do get through, but there are still way more than I need.

So I have tools like SpamAssassin to get rid of the spam.  This occasionally
will destroy valid e-mail messages, causing me to possibly miss something
important, such as a business transaction or a message from 

a family member.

Likewise, when I have an account like the one that I mentioned earlier that
receives 200000 spams a day, there's no way I could read them.  I could hire
a full-time staff to do nothing else but sort through that mail, and I'd
still miss something valid occasionally.

This means that spam is hurting my business.  It's causing problems in my
relationships with customers.  It's definitely occupying a lot of my time, 

preventing me from getting valid business done.

Why do legitimate businesses still do this?  Why would a company like
Rochester Initiative or iSeries400Experts.com partake in something that is 

so destructive?  Surely they realize that it hurts their reputation?

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