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Each group has its own set of CDs - they are not consolidated.

I would not order everything - if you do not have WAS at all, don't do those. If you have WAS ND 5.1, you might also want normal WAS 5.1 - but someone at your shop should know what you have. ND is, as I understand it, kind of a layer above the normal part. But others will know better - I just remember fighting with this in an exploratory way.

"Recommended fixes" -

Go to <www.iseries.ibm.com/support>.

On the left, click on "Fixes".

In the main section, the last item is "Recommended fixes".

That's it. In that section, also, the 3rd item is a guide to fixes that can be very helpful.

ENJOY!
Vern

At 08:12 AM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
> Welcome to the rat's nest.

Yeah, that about sums it up!

So, if we just order all of the groups, will they be consolidated on one
CD-ROM (or however many needed)?  Or will our operator be forced to load 19
CD-ROMs, one for each group?

If they're cosolidated, no problem, I'll just order them all.  Otherwise,
I'll have to be a little more selective.

Vern, I did not see any link to "Recommended Fixes".  Can you narrow that
down a bit more?

tia,
db

> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx / Vernon Hamberg
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:31 PM
>
> I've been digging around this tuff awhile, so I've picked up little bits
> along the way. TA, LD, and SR are functional areas of LIC or
> OS/400. TA is
> tape, LD is load/dump (low-level names for save/restore), and SR is what
> you think it is. These are often the 2nd and 3rd letters of
> object names -
> do WRKOBJ QTA*, e.g. LD is an exception, as it refers to functions or
> modules in LIC, not an object we normally can see.
>
> The good news is, only those that apply to your system will be
> applied when
> you process the PTF. The bad news is, you need to order the whole
> thing --
> same as cumes, which always have much more than you need.
>
> "520 WebSphere App Server ND V5.0" is the "Network Deployment" version of
> WAS - these are the PTFs for v5r2m0 of OS/400 that support that product.
>
> I always got HIPER, database (DB2 UDB), Java, & HTTP Server.
> Get  Performance Tools if you have it. And I guess now you want
> BRMS, et al.
>
> The rest of it is whatever you have installed.
>
> But this is not all - on the Fixes site you should look at the
> Recommended
> Fixes. There are things there that I've thought should be in a
> group - like
> the telnet PTFs or the print PTFs - but they are not. Others are optional
> things but useful or needed for certain situations - just saw something
> that changes CPYFRMIMPF at V5R3 back to act as if at V5R2.
>
> Welcome to the rat's nest.
>
> HTH
> Vern
>
> At 04:17 PM 10/25/2004, you wrote:
> >How does one tell whether they need a certain PTF group?  "Work with PTF
> >Groups" on our v5r2 box shows 4 groups:
> >   SF99519
> >   SF99502
> >   SF99169
> >   SF99098
> >
> >However, when I go to the PSP site for group PTFs, there are 19
> groups!  I
> >looked at some of the detail and can't find useful references to LPP id's
> >that would tell you whether you need it or not.  I looked at the
> "SF99085:
> >520 520 Backup Recovery Solutions" and can't tell if this is strictly for
> >BRMS shops or what.  A snip from the group site:
> >
> >   Description:  BRMS, TA, LD, SR and now LPAR Group PTF
> >   Product: 5722SS1, 572299, 57222BR1
> >
> >(BTW, that is "sic"; I copy/pasted the above; see the Product:)
> >
> >We do not have BRMS, however what is "TA, LD, SR"?  Is SR =
> "Save/Restore"?
> >If so, then that would be everybody, right?
> >
> >And SF99085 might be an easy one if every shop needs it.  What
> product would
> >I need to look for to see if I should install group SF99246 (520
> WebSphere
> >App Server ND V5.0)?  The detail on that doesn't even show a product ID.
> >
> >Advice and RTFM links appreciated!
> >
> >db

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