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Don, Thanks. That's a good idea. Normally we schedule everything with Robot, which wouldn't be running while getting a SWA checkpoint. I had forgotten that the OS/400 job scheduler would still be working. I'll check it out. Thanks! Dave Parnin Nishikawa Standard Company Topeka, IN 46571 daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx McIntyre Don <dnmcin@xxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Sent by: <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>@SMTP@CTB midrange-l-bounces@m cc: (bcc: David A Parnin/Topeka/NISCO/SPCO) idrange.com Subject: RE: Save while active (SWA) question 10/21/2004 10:06 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midrange .com> Hey Dave, Just a quick suggestion to your TCP/IP issue. There are probably more elaborate procedures, but just simply place a program to restart to your TCP/IP on the job schedular and have it set to kick off about 30 minutes after the SWA would normally bring it back up. Don --- daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > Jeff, > > I've implemented SWA here. There's nothing special > about using QCTL vs. > another subsystem as long as all user jobs have > ended. I submit the > monitor job to a subsystem that we already had set > up for I.T. jobs. The > program doing the SWA just runs in the user jobq > under the QBATCH subsytem. > We get to a "semi-restricted" state by individually > ending just about all > other subsytems and ending TCP/IP to kill any ODBC, > FTP, and 5250 > connections. > > I am reconsidering restarting TCP/IP before the > checkpoint has been > achieved. We had a glitch a month or so ago where > there was an error with > the tape drive and there was a QSYSOPR message with > no way to answer it > except to drive in (which I did at midnight). If I > had TCP/IP running I > could have used a QCTL session that I've got to get > in remotely and answer > it. That hardware issue was the only problem that > we've had, which wasn't > really a problem with SWA. > > Dave Parnin > Nishikawa Standard Company > Topeka, IN 46571 > daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > Jeff Crosby > > > <jlcrosby@dilgardfoo > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > ds.com> > <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>@SMTP@CTB > > Sent by: > cc: (bcc: David A Parnin/Topeka/NISCO/SPCO) > > midrange-l-bounces@m > Subject: RE: Save while active (SWA) question > > idrange.com > > > > > > > > > 10/21/2004 07:04 AM > > > Please respond to > > > Midrange Systems > > > Technical Discussion > > > <midrange-l@midrange > > > .com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Evan wrote: > > > Why wouldn't you do them both in batch ? (just > curious) > > Up to now I've not used SWA so it had to be > interactive. I did an ENDSYS > for the *ALLUSR backup. Though I'm not starting > with the *ALLUSR backup, I > wanted to keep them all "the same" in style. > > > I don't really have a recommendation either way, > or more > > exactly a good reason for why I'd probably go with > Option 1. > > I was thinking that way yesterday also. But today > I'm leaning a little > more > toward #2. Batch has more CPW so it seems, at least > on the surface, to do > the heavier lifting there. > > > Whichever way you go, build a timeout into > > your restart job to make sure it doesn't wait > forever for the > > SWA checkpoint when the inevitable error comes > along. > > Good idea. I had not thought of that. > > -- > Jeff Crosby > Dilgard Frozen Foods, Inc. > P.O. Box 13369 > Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369 > 260-422-7531 > > The opinions expressed are my own and not > necessarily the opinion of my > company. Unless I say so. > > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: > http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the > archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: > http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the > archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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