RE: Save while active (SWA) question -- MIDRANGE-L

Hey Dave,
Just a quick suggestion to your TCP/IP issue.  There
are probably more elaborate procedures, but just
simply place a program to restart to your TCP/IP on
the job schedular and have it set to kick off about 30
minutes after the SWA would normally bring it back up.


Don

--- daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

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> Jeff,
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> I've implemented SWA here.  There's nothing special
> about using QCTL vs.
> another subsystem as long as all user jobs have
> ended.  I submit the
> monitor job to a subsystem that we already had set
> up for I.T. jobs.  The
> program doing the SWA just runs in the user jobq
> under the QBATCH subsytem.
> We get to a "semi-restricted" state by individually
> ending just about all
> other subsytems and ending TCP/IP to kill any ODBC,
> FTP, and 5250
> connections.
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> I am reconsidering restarting TCP/IP before the
> checkpoint has been
> achieved.  We had a glitch a month or so ago where
> there was an error with
> the tape drive and there was a QSYSOPR message with
> no way to answer it
> except to drive in (which I did at midnight).  If I
> had TCP/IP running I
> could have used a QCTL session that I've got to get
> in remotely and answer
> it.  That hardware issue was the only problem that
> we've had, which wasn't
> really a problem with SWA.
> 
> Dave Parnin
> Nishikawa Standard Company
> Topeka, IN  46571
> daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Evan wrote:
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> > Why wouldn't you do them both in batch ? (just
> curious)
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> Up to now I've not used SWA so it had to be
> interactive.  I did an ENDSYS
> for the *ALLUSR backup.  Though I'm not starting
> with the *ALLUSR backup, I
> wanted to keep them all "the same" in style.
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> > I don't really have a recommendation either way,
> or more
> > exactly a good reason for why I'd probably go with
> Option 1.
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> I was thinking that way yesterday also.  But today
> I'm leaning a little
> more
> toward #2.  Batch has more CPW so it seems, at least
> on the surface, to do
> the heavier lifting there.
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> > Whichever way you go, build a timeout into
> > your restart job to make sure it doesn't wait
> forever for the
> > SWA checkpoint when the inevitable error comes
> along.
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> Good idea.  I had not thought of that.
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> Jeff Crosby
> Dilgard Frozen Foods, Inc.
> P.O. Box 13369
> Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369
> 260-422-7531
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