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RE: Confused about printing

The reason for both device descriptions is when I tried printing the AFPDS
spooled file on WV17, it got held immediately by the writer. Hence, I
created a different DEVD for AFPDS printing.

I received "Bar Code Specification Check exception at printer WV17."
Messages in the writer when trying to print the AFPDS spooled file to WV17.
It looks like the sense data X'04110100 DE010001 00000000 D6810101 01010000 
00000001' is a result of trying to print off the page, or the positional
translation put part of the barcode off the page.

Judging by the AFPDS results, that is correct. I have bar codes running all
off the page.
 
Loyd

Loyd Goodbar
Senior programmer/analyst
BorgWarner
E/TS Water Valley
662-473-5713

-----Original Message-----
From: CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 14:02
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Confused about printing

Loyd.

Excuse the redundancy but the inclusion of both printer device descriptions
has thrown me off.

So if you take an *IPDS spool file and print it to WV17 it prints
differently than the same spool file created as *AFPDS and sent to the same
WV17 printer.

Note: I would expect the same spool file printed to WV17 and WV17HPT to
print differently.  That's simply a limitation between the *AFPDS to HPT
conversion.

Charles


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Goodbar, Loyd (ETS - Water Valley) 
> [mailto:LGoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:26 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> 
> 
> Yes. When printing the IPDS vs AFPDS version of the same 
> print file on the
> same printer (IBM 4312), the IPDS barcodes are thinner.
> 
> Device description details: WV17 (IPDS)
> Device class: *LAN
> Device type: *IPDS
> Device model: 0
> LAN attachment: *IP
> Advanced function printing: *YES
> Port number: 5001
> User-defined object: QGPL/WV17 *PSFCFG
> Manufacturer type and mode;: <blank>
> System driver program: <blank>
> 
> Device description details: WV17HPT (HPT only)
> Device class: *LAN
> Device type: 3812
> Device model: 1
> LAN attachment: *IP
> Advanced function printing: *NO
> Port number: 5001
> User-defined object: *NONE
> Manufacturer type and model: *IBM4312
> System driver program: *IBMPJLDRV
> 
> When printing to most of our IBM printers, the IPDS file 
> prints correctly.
> On the 1140, the file prints wider bar codes. On the 1352, it 
> prints the
> same as the 4312. It could be the *PSFCFG is different on the 1140...
> 
> I need to dig more but this is the difference I've seen so far.
> 
> Loyd
> 
> Loyd Goodbar
> Senior programmer/analyst
> BorgWarner
> E/TS Water Valley
> 662-473-5713
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:56
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> 
> Loyd,
> 
> Do you mean that they print fatter as *AFPDS than *IPDS on 
> the same printer?
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Goodbar, Loyd (ETS - Water Valley) 
> > [mailto:LGoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:35 AM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> > 
> > 
> > Changing the printer file from *IPDS to *AFPDS works. 
> > However, there must
> > have been some catch between IPDS and AFPDS, because the 
> > barcodes print
> > "fatter" through AFPDS than IPDS does. 
> > 
> > We also noticed this when we tried to print the spooled file 
> > as IPDS on
> > another IBM printer with IBM IPDS installed. The barcodes are 
> > thinner on the
> > 4312/17/24 model printers than on the two 1140 printers we 
> > have, or any
> > other printer (HP) with IPDS capability. 
> > 
> > The short story is, yes it works, but I need to rearrange everything
> > horizontally in the printer file to accommodate for the 
> > fatter barcodes, as
> > well as reduce the barcode ratio from 3 to 2. Somewhere I 
> > remember that 3 is
> > the correct ratio, but the barcodes are too wide!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Loyd
> > 
> > Loyd Goodbar
> > Senior programmer/analyst
> > BorgWarner
> > E/TS Water Valley
> > 662-473-5713
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Goodbar, Loyd (ETS - Water Valley) 
> > [mailto:LGoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 14:58
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> > 
> > OK, thanks! I will try this in test tomorrow. (Too many fires 
> > right now!)
> > 
> > Loyd Goodbar
> > Senior programmer/analyst
> > BorgWarner
> > E/TS Water Valley
> > 662-473-5713
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 13:25
> > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> > 
> > Loyd,
> > 
> > Host Print Transform (HPT) can't handle *IPDS spool files.  
> > You need to
> > change the spool file to *AFPDS.
> > 
> > Leave the printer *DEVD alone.  You don't need AFP(*YES) when 
> > the printer is
> > using HPT.
> > 
> > In other words, HPT can't do *IPDS to ASCII.  But it can do 
> > *AFPDS to ASCII.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > Charles
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Goodbar, Loyd (ETS - Water Valley) 
> > > [mailto:LGoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:04 PM
> > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > > Subject: Confused about printing
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have an IBM 4312 printer I'd like to replace with a Dell 
> > > M5200. Using the
> > > recent "Help! Best Host Print Transform for Dell W5300 
> > > Printer" thread as a
> > > guide, I have set up the Dell as a *LAN/3812 with host print 
> > > transform and
> > > using the *IBMPJLDRV system driver. Currently no workstation 
> > > customizing
> > > object, user defined object, or data transformation program.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I was under the impression I was able to print IPDS spooled 
> > files with
> > > barcodes to this printer, but the system holds the file. 
> > > Also, printing
> > > reports with MULTIUP(2) doesn't; it prints spooled files as 
> > > if the multiup()
> > > were not specified.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Somewhere else I read I could use the barcodes if I 
> > > recompiled the DDS using
> > > spooled file type AFPDS. However, I can't seem to get the 
> > > Dell printer to be
> > > an AFP capable printer with a device class of *LAN and type 3812.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Is there a "simple" matrix of which spooled file types work 
> > with which
> > > printer types?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I have two goals with the Dell printer: 1) Support printing 
> > > of bar codes -
> > > how? What's the proper non-IPDS setup for the printer? 2) 
> > > Support printing
> > > of regular spooled files with MULTIUP(2). Is this an 
> > > IPDS-only function or
> > > is this supported with HPT?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Loyd Goodbar
> > > 
> > > Senior programmer/analyst
> > > 
> > > BorgWarner
> > > 
> > > E/TS Water Valley
> > > 
> > > 662-473-5713
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
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