RE: is this a hint or what?

[rob@xxxxxxxxx]

You bring up a valid point about 'cost of ownership' but if we're going to 
go there I argue that the increased productivity of WDSC pays for these 
incidents.  Like the time a gent here spent 45 minutes of time looking at 
a CL program that should have worked.  I quickly spotted the problem in 
CODE/400 because the fact that the comment was color coded was made much 
more apparent.
The people here don't seem to be experiencing your problems.  I would work 
closely with IBM.  It might be anything from an install issue to an 
underpowered machine, to other software on your PC misbehaving.

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All of you must have a lot better luck keeping WDSCI up and running than I
do. I average about 4 hours before it locks up. Talk about hidden costs.

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The cost difference between SEU and CODE/400?  $0.00.  Oh I suppose some 
will argue that's hiding the true cost.  Because you'll need a beefier PC, 

etc.  However:
1)  SEU requires a 5250 client, most, including iSeries Access, aren't 
free.
2)  SEU requires the interactive tax.
So, if you want to argue about 'hidden costs' don't forget those.  And we 
just shelled out $250,000 for the interactive tax.

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midrange-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

>   3. Re: is this a hint or what? (Brad Stone)
>
>But, the main question is, unless one of these editors is
>free (or even $100 or so), I'm sticking with SEU.  It works great for 
>me, and I am very productive with it.

Interesting point. Anybody care to comment on the cost difference between 
SEU and, say, CODE/400 nowadays?


>  And I
>don't want to install some thick client just for writing 
>applications...  Not everyone has 100 gig of memory for IBM's PC based 
>applications.  LOL!

Hard to find anything wrong with this sentiment. Those of us who began 
serious programming back when systems were "8K _PLUS_ a 4K expansion box!" 

might never sympathize with any requirement for all those giga-hertz of 
mega-ram that every single app seems to need nowadays.

What's worse, it seems the more memory my PCs have and the faster the 
processors and the more unused disk, the slower the _very same apps_ run. 
I run iSeries Access on my laptop and get performance with iSeries 
Navigator that's not perceptibly different from running on my desktop with 

four times the memory and twice the processor speed and double the unused 
disk space. (W2K laptop and WXP desktop.)

Sigh.

Tom Liotta

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