RE: Automize a complete save

Is TDD french for TSM, or Tivoli Storage Manager?  It's a heck of a 
popular product.  And with certain Enterprise packages, it will come 
bundled in.

But I wouldn't use it for a complete system save, and we have TSM.

Yes, a go save 21 does require it be ran from the system console.  We have 
a program where you sign on with a special user id and password and it 
automatically 
brings the system to a restricted state,
performs all the steps of the GO SAVE 21
and then it IPL's the machine.
Use it once a week on our Domino cluster backup machine.

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Hi all,

Thanks for your answers. Meanwhile I talked with IBM support in France 
about a software problem we hade on AS/400 and the guy told me he was a 
backup/recovery specialist. So I asked him if he has a solution about 
that. And he had one : Using TDD. It's an IBM offer and costs near by 1000 
euros (much more in dollars), not so much for a bank as we are. Does 
somebody know about this program ?

He has send it to me for a 30 days test. So I will test it.

JC

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However it is done, it will currently need to run interactively. Several
Backup Recovery software packages have built into them a way to submit
processes to an interactive console. This allows the system to be taken to 
a
restrictive state, which is a requirement of SAVE Option 21 (specifically
the SAVSYS and SAVLIB *NONSYS)and saved in an unattended automated way.

Take a look at IBM's solution: BRMS/400

 
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/service/brms/prodinfo.htm


It sounds like you have plenty of time. A FULL system save in 45 minutes,
wow! It can take me up to 10 hours!

Kenneth

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Hi all,

I know that's not a new question and I found some stuff on archive. But I
don't understand why there's no real solution about that.

As you know we had a great crash on a critical 9406-820 with OS 4.5 and we
found out our saves were not OK. Now machine and its applications are OK. 
We
think about making simple saves and fast recovery without mirroring. We
tested "go save" with option 21. It took 45 minutes to save whole system 
on
ultrium1 tape (hope we have all datas as it is explained in several docs).
This machine is critical, but has no application working whole night. So 
we
have enough time to save. I would like to automize "go save" option 21 to 
be
scheduled every night. I know the great difficulty is that we need whole
system to be stopped to be sure all datas will be saved. Some ideas ?

Regards.
Jean Claude
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