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The S/34 was a thrown together system using piece parts that had been developed for the S/38, but was not shipping because CPF was not finished. The S/36 came out in 1983 or 4, and IBM announced that this was the follow-on to the S/34. They announced that it would only come in the one size, and would never be bigger or smaller. (Both of which proved to be lies.) Join was added in R07M00, and OPNQRYF was added in R08M00. OPNQRYF was actually developed as a debugging aid for SQL which was being planned for the AS/400, and was not included in the R08M00 announcement. Most of us heard Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z" e gads Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor! 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com http://www.as400connection.com "Keith Carpenter" <CarpCon@xxxxxxx> Sent by: To midrange-l-bounce "Midrange Systems Technical s@xxxxxxxxxxxx Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc 07/29/2004 03:42 PM Subject Re: Who is Glenn Henry? Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> Actually, the S/38 preceeded both the S/36 and DB2. Because the S/38 didn't prove to be a popular replacement for the S/34, the S/36 was introduced to fill the gap. On the upper end, it competed with the small 4300s Early CPF releases did not have join LFs or OPNQRYF. IBM did not offer SQL (I think ASC did). Classifying it's nameless database as relational was always debatable. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Barber" <mboceanside@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Who is Glenn Henry? > I "suspect" no one individual came up with any of those > subjects. Remember, the S/38 took a LOT of it's ideas > from the S/36. The relational data base came from the > big iron guys who had it for years prior to the S/38. > The calls came from the big iron folks. The S/38 was > truly a collection of ideas from everywhere. > > CLP was a combo of OCL(S/36) and JCL(MVS) in my opinion. > > The S/38 was a very odd bird at the time but really a > big collection of "other" ideas that finally got put > in a single machine. > > The MI abstract layer was the first of "new" ideas. > This so called "microcode" was really somthing new at > the time. It later proved to be a VERY good idea. > > Of course the S/36 had microcode several years earlier > from it's beginning in the S/34 and even much earlier > with the S/3.(back when the earth's crust was cooling) > > > Steve Richter wrote: > > > Who invented command definitions and CL? > > > > Who added externally described files to RPG? > > > > Who added the CALLX to MI which made it possible for an RPG program to call > > another CL/RPG/COBOL program with parameters? > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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