RE: Model 170 for Personal Development

John,

I have never understood why IBM would keep software
costs so high on older versions of the OS. I wish
they provided an option to buy older software without
support at a discounted price - especially for the
older hardware.  

BTW, I check the forums on your site everyday.  A couple 
of months ago I had thought about "signing up" but then
I went to Common and took Leif's MI class and decided
to wait until I got my own box so that I could "play"
with MI (among other things) and not worry about screwing 
up someone elses system ;-) 

Terry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Ross [mailto:jross-ml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:53 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: Model 170 for Personal Development
> 
> Base OS is just the base for the OS not the other products. 
> And since V4 the OS stays with the box and it will with V5R3. Now when 
> they say base OS you will get other software, you get the no charge 
> software, like Java, HTTP, TCP.
> 
> PDM is now (I think V5R1 and up, maybe V5R2 and up) under 5722WDS    
> 21      Tools - Application Development 
> 
> You can buy pre June 11th software 
> (http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/5/897/ENUS204-085/#@2h@74@) 
> from third parties. At any price they want to charge. I would think the 
> June 11th limitation 3rd parties may want to start unloading this 
> software, or it might make it work more. Not sure how IBM is going to 
> know it is pre June 11th . And I have not done this so not sure of the 
> headaches.
>
>I heard (from an IBMer) V5R3 will be the last release for the 170, so I 
>have to think these may go down in price.
>
>Disk and memory is pretty cheap in AS400 prices  for the 170.
>http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=
-840&storeId=1>>&categoryId=2549501&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73 
>
>
>I run www.netshare400.com  ( And thanks to the others who put it in 
>their emails, but N comes before T :)  )
>
>Regards
>John Ross