RE: Record size limitation in RPG - MQ Series

I've only seen DSPF and EDTF on iSeries.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:55:27 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx said:
> I thought of that.  There are already several utilities out there that
> IBM 
> has renamed to appease those who prefer the IBM commands.  Granted, in 
> general I do prefer the IBM naming convention.  However, if a command is 
> used across multiple operating systems, then I'll use the standard. 
> Examples abound in the TCP/IP according to IBM world
> NETSTAT = WRKTCPSTS
> NSLOOKUP = STRDNSQRY
> PING = VFYTCPCNN
> 
> But if this is all it takes to make a customer happy...
> 
> By the way, are DSPF/EDTF a pair of those commonly found commands?
> 
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> Create a command called DSPUSRSPC. Have it associated with a CL of the
> same name. One liner in the CL - DSPF.
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> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:59:33 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx said:
> > I see your point.
> > 
> > However, what would you expect a 'iseries' based command to give you, to 
> 
> > work with a user space, that EDTF/DSPF doesn't?  If it isn't that much 
> > more capable, or easier to use, then I just as soon they put the money 
> > into something else.
> > 
> > If IBM created a command, DSPUSRSPC, and it looked pretty much like 
> DSPF, 
> > would you be happy?
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> > Iirc, I had a tool to do this and it took relatively "no time" to
> > develop.
> > IF so, and IF I had access to it, I wouldn't release it to the public
> > because the code was crappy, however.
> > 
> > But what I wonder is how's come IBM hasn't come up with such-a tool all
> > these years?!?
> > 
> > Lemme answer that rhetorical question, Rob.  Because pseudo-dweebs 
> prefer
> > EDTF and the Kings of the DCRS such as yourself prefer a Windoze-like
> > interface as opposed to CmdLine tools.  That's why.
> > 
> > And it's also because there are, according to Mr. Zollar, there are
> > 3,000,000 Java programmers and 300,000 RPG programmers.  So,
> > over-applying
> > the 80/20 rule, the 300,000 RPGers get essentially zero development 
> > dollars,
> > and they're just expected to eat dung like they have been for the past
> > decade or two.
> > 
> > Is there something here you don't comprehend, Rob?
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> > | -----Original Message-----
> > | [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
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> > | Earlier on in the thread it was stated that there was no utility to
> > | display the contents of a user space.  For example, if you wanted to
> > see
> > | if your program was updating it properly.  Thus, in that case, DSPF is
> > a
> > | valid utility.  I suppose you could do a DMPOBJ, but I think that is 
> > even
> > | more 'dweeby'.
> > |
> > | Rob Berendt
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> > | Didn't know that, Colin.
> > |
> > | But WHY would anybody WANT to do this??  (I used EDTF.. like once or 
> > twice
> > | was enuf, iirc.)  I mean, as opposed to STRSEU QGPL/STRCODE...
> > |
> > | *Nix-like attitude won out again, apparently.  Never surprises me, but
> > | then,
> > | never ceases to amaze me either.
> > |
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