Pete,

avoiding RPGIV, your joking arent you! Its been around for 8 or 9 years now!

cheers
Colin.W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Helgren" <pete@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: ** POLL - How many of you are playing with Java/Websphere/JSP
**


> Primary because of (to quote you), the "mixing HTML with Java".  It
> complicates the maintenance and readability of the Java code. I am by no
> means an MVC "purist", but as a relative newcomer to Java and HTML (only
> about 18 months) I find the "mixing" more confusing than helpful.  I use
> Freemarker as a templating tool (it is excellent and can be found at
> freemarker.org) with Java servlets primarily because as an "old school"
RPG
> programmer it closely mimics the Screen DDS / RPG model I am familiar
with.
> I create a screen with "markers" where the data goes (like SDA) .  I
create
> a program the processes the screen and retrieves the data from the DB
(like
> writing RPG). I run the program.  Simple.  It is just a familiar paradigm
> for me.  Better yet, since my HTML forms look uncannily like 5250 screens
> (read: UGLY), I can take my prototype HTML give it to someone who actually
> knows what they are doing with HTML and they return the HTML page back
> looking "pretty".  They leave the field markers in place and Voila! I have
a
> nice looking HTML app.
>
> I guess it is a preference...like avoiding RPG IV because I haven't taken
> the time to learn it well enough to use it daily (yet!).  But from what I
> hear about "traditional" JSP's, they are quietly taking a back seat to
other
> technologies anyway.
>
> Pete Helgren
> Value Added Software,Inc.
> 801.581.1154
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of richard@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:22 PM
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: ** POLL - How many of you are playing with
> Java/Websphere/JSP **
>
>
> Hello Pete,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Why do you avoid JSP pages ?
>
> We have found JSP useful for mixing HTML with Java.
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schoen
> RJS Software Systems Inc.
>
> Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web Site: http://www.rjssoft.com
> Tel: (952) 898-3038
> Fax: (952) 898-1781
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> message: 10
> date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:11:46 -0700
> from: "Pete Helgren" <pete@xxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: RE: ** POLL - How many of you are playing with
>                  Java/Websphere/JSP **
>
> Richard,
>
> Java - Yes
> Websphere - Probably not.
> JSP - We avoid them when possible.
>
> Pete Helgren
> Value Added Software,Inc.
> 801.581.1154
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