Primary because of (to quote you), the "mixing HTML with Java". It complicates the maintenance and readability of the Java code. I am by no means an MVC "purist", but as a relative newcomer to Java and HTML (only about 18 months) I find the "mixing" more confusing than helpful. I use Freemarker as a templating tool (it is excellent and can be found at freemarker.org) with Java servlets primarily because as an "old school" RPG programmer it closely mimics the Screen DDS / RPG model I am familiar with. I create a screen with "markers" where the data goes (like SDA) . I create a program the processes the screen and retrieves the data from the DB (like writing RPG). I run the program. Simple. It is just a familiar paradigm for me. Better yet, since my HTML forms look uncannily like 5250 screens (read: UGLY), I can take my prototype HTML give it to someone who actually knows what they are doing with HTML and they return the HTML page back looking "pretty". They leave the field markers in place and Voila! I have a nice looking HTML app. I guess it is a preference...like avoiding RPG IV because I haven't taken the time to learn it well enough to use it daily (yet!). But from what I hear about "traditional" JSP's, they are quietly taking a back seat to other technologies anyway. Pete Helgren Value Added Software,Inc. 801.581.1154 -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of richard@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:22 PM To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: ** POLL - How many of you are playing with Java/Websphere/JSP ** Hello Pete, Thanks for the feedback. Why do you avoid JSP pages ? We have found JSP useful for mixing HTML with Java. Regards, Richard Schoen RJS Software Systems Inc. Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxx Web Site: http://www.rjssoft.com Tel: (952) 898-3038 Fax: (952) 898-1781 ------------------------------------------------------------------- message: 10 date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:11:46 -0700 from: "Pete Helgren" <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> subject: RE: ** POLL - How many of you are playing with Java/Websphere/JSP ** Richard, Java - Yes Websphere - Probably not. JSP - We avoid them when possible. Pete Helgren Value Added Software,Inc. 801.581.1154 _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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