RE: V5R2 Console Recommendations

[rob@xxxxxxxxx]

I've "never" had this issue.

Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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Ops console certainly has some great benefits (remote access is the best 
one
IMO); but I wish we had purchased a twinax card for our 825. 

For what ever reason ops console stops being able to connect and an IPL is
required to recover the console. 

Generally any time we need a console we have to IPL first. Fortunately 
there
are not many times we need a console and it has never died during a 
delicate
operation. 

The machine we use meets the specs set forth and we keep it current on CA
Service packs; so I am not sure what the issue is. One that we have 
noticed
is if the PC goes down for any reason with out being disconnected first we
cannot connect again; however, this doesn't happen very often.


-----Original Message-----
From: rob@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:27 AM
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Subject: Re: V5R2 Console Recommendations

Actually IBM is abandoning an expensive technology.  Who wants to buy a
twinax adapter, or eat up a slot in their iSeries for something that 
doesn't leave the computer room?   And they aren't as reliable as people 
make them out to be.  I remember replacing lots of 3196's because the on 
off
switches went bad.  And if they were so reliable, then why did we have 
boxes
of keyboards that didn't match monitors (until we recently cleaned up our
computer room)?  And I remember a twinax card in the iseries going bad and
being limited to telnet, etc.
The Op's console just has so much more function available.

So, did people use to argue that the old card readers should be kept in 
case
the terminals were down?

James, I know that you pride yourself on using MI or whatever so that your
code will continue to run on V1R3 or whatever, but some of us have moved 
on.


Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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> I have always preferred dumb 5250 twinax devices as consoles because
> when the chips are down, they work. However, they do take a lot of
> space, are no longer sold by IBM, are not the "modern" way of doing
> things, etc, etc, etc.

Has IBM Rochester been taking doofus lessons from Microsloth? Abandoning a
proven, cheap, reliable technology (i.e., Twinax terminals, which are NOT
"dumb," at least not in the sense that an old Lear ADM-3 "glass TTY" is
dumb) just because it isn't "slick," while continuing to shove (with
ever-increasing force) an expensive, congenitally-obsolete bit of
bloatware (i.e., Client Access, and everything that depends specifically
on it) down people's throats?

For crying out loud, I DESIGNED an emulator, and I KNOW that there's never
been one that has the aesthetics, the 132-column-readability, and the
reliability of a 3487-HC.

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JHHL


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