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ROFL... That is funny. Maybe get that fancy "Confidential" stamp on it. Or
have the name be called, Trade Secrets... 


Mike Wills
Lawson Programmer/Administrator
Taylor Development
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Direct Line: (507) 386-3187

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hall, Philip
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 1:48 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen?

Don't forget to put labels on it with text such as;
 
"Super Fast Server"
"WARNING:Confidential Corporate Data"
 
That way you'll be sure to have it stolen, and thus avoid, which I guess is
the point, the cost of disposal :-)

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Chuck Lewis [mailto:clewis@xxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Wed 1/28/2004 1:18 PM 
        To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' 
        Cc: 
        Subject: RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen?
        
        

        I was just on our Computer Room and I'm think about just leaving our
620
        (replaced by an 810 last September) in there and running. It is
bigger than
        the 810 and in a more obvious placement so maybe someone looking for
a box
        would think bigger is better and take the 620 (since it is worth
NOTHING)
        LOL
        
        Chuck
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
        [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Helgren
        Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:20 PM
        To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
        Subject: RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen?
        
        Just an update on where I am in this process:
        
        Turns out there *is* a way to track a stolen iSeries so if it
actually does
        get sold to someone who puts it on maintenance or contacts IBM about
it, it
        will show up as stolen.
        
        I was musing about how awesome the iSeries community is.  The
numerous
        offers, off list, to temporarily host us. Laura Green who is iSeries
        Developer Lease & Discount Coordinator, has been checking in daily
to see if
        she can help in expediting a replacement.  I got an off-list e-mail
from
        Anne Lucas, iSeries Retention Program Manager & Customer
Relationships,
        checking in to see what she could do.
        
        If this had been a Sun, or HP, or a (heavens no!) Dell box, I
wouldn't have
        gotten the time of day unless I was interested in forking out cash
for the
        new box first.  Laura and Anne have been interested in helping my
business
        get going again, not just selling or leasing another iSeries.
Everyone,
        from my IBM contacts to you folks on the Midrange list, have been
very
        helpful.
        
        Very cool to be part of this community.  Even after 18 years of
midrange
        experiences, I still have pleasant surprises. Can't say that about
any other
        company on the planet.
        
        Pete Helgren
        Value Added Software, Inc.
        
        
        
        
        
        
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
        > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jeff Bull
        > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:25 AM
        > To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
        > Subject: RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen? (Don)
        >
        >
        > Personally no, but a recruitment agency I once visited in the
        > good old days,
        > had an F20 (I think).  Their office was broken into and all the
electronic
        > stuff went, PCs, printers, faxes ... and the AS/400; I doubt the
thieves
        > knew what it was they were taking.  Since they chopped off all the
cables,
        > including the local workstation controller, I bet they ended up
        > dumping it.
        >
        > Crooks these days seem to steal to order, and they know what they
        > are after
        > and leave everything else.  We had a spate of burglaries where
        > they took big
        > plasma screens and left untouched PCs, and even Compaq servers
        > and laptops.
        >
        > Kind regards,
        >
        > Jeffrey E. Bull
        > OS400 Software Support Consultant
        >
        > IBM Certified Systems Expert, iSeries Technical Solutions
        > IBM Certified Systems Specialist, AS/400 System Administration
        >
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        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Shields, Ken [mailto:kenshields@xxxxxxx]
        > Sent: 28 January 2004 16:05
        > To: 'Midrange Mailing LIst'
        > Subject: RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen? (Don)
        >
        >
        > Hi Gang...
        >               Me thinks a better tact would be to have IBM scrap
any
        > serial number tracing scheme, and just let
        >               lots of AS400's be stolen.
        >
        >               Once stolen, the new 'owners', would then want to
update
        > themselves , sign up on a maintenance contract,
        >               and voila!..the AS400 is now more popular than
ever.(The
        > insurance companies might object)
        >
        >               Five years ago, I read an article that indicated
that MS was
        > prepared to lose something the the neighbourhood of
        >               $500 mil annually, to stolen software, knowing full
well
        > that it would expand the MS world, and those same
        >               individuals would eventually be back.
        >               Sort of surfs on the boundaries of Ethics...
        >
        >
        > Ken Shields
        > Oshawa systems group
        > Works 81, Oshawa Ontario
        > (905) 725-1144 Ext 326
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