Re: Change management software counterpoint

[Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At one other company (6-7 years ago, about 20 people in help desk, 
development, and operations) we used Aldon - it did not create anything out 
of QTEMP on its own - you set up a hierarchy of libraries for the various 
stages of promotion, and copies of the source and objects moved up and down 
that tree. Same with TurnOver, which I recommended at another company where 
I worked (4-5 years ago, approx. 5 people in 400 development & operations). 
I was disenchanted by the delays in Affiniti getting done right on the part 
of Aldon - cannot speak to the current situation. As I recall, the 
differences were very small - don't remember what I thought of Implementer 
at the time - sorry, David. I think I liked project management better with 
TurnOver.

Aldon usually adds some training, I think, to the initial cost. TurnOver 
might, but we didn't need it - got it over the phone, I think, instead of a 
person coming out. Maybe my previous experience let us get away without 
on-site training, don't remember.

I don't think you can go wrong with any of these. And you will save your 
butt over and over. Even very small shops can benefit greatly, although you 
may think you don't need this much change management. You also get better 
control over development resources - your developers may scream for awhile 
that they don't have the "free" access they used to have, but that's part 
of the problems these apps can correct. Just present it as protection for 
them, etc. - the vendors can help you here - and learn how to convince them 
they will actually get their job done better and faster and more reliably.

BTW, I've a great memory, just short.

HTH
Vern

At 07:47 AM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> Pete:
>
> Point well taken ...Although I am certain that the client stated the CM
> tool created all objects from QTEMP, I didn't actually check it myself.
>
> I will be interested to see if anyone replies to this thread with a
> narrative about problems associated with discontinuing use of change
> management. This may in fact not be a concern.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> John G. Dyer, CDP
> Vice President
> Information Management Consultants, Inc.
> jdyer@xxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.imcedi.com
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